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IRS actually fears man who doesn't file taxes
Worldnet Daily ^ | 2 June, 2013 | Jack Minor

Posted on 06/03/2013 9:44:55 AM PDT by Errant

Amid an unusual spotlight on IRS conduct, a Colorado businessman contends his case is one the government particularly wants to keep hidden, because it could cause the whole federal agency to self-destruct.

Jeff Maehr, a Colorado chiropractor who has engaged in a number of business ventures, including PureHealthSystems.com, admits he has refused to file federal income tax returns since 2002, but he says the IRS is afraid to press criminal charges against him.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: corruption; federalincometax; filing1040; filingtaxreturn; icome; irs; irstaxscandal; tax
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To: clintonh8r

*Now that the beast is out in the open it will be much easier to starve it.*

I hope that, unlike the Hotel California, we have steelier knives and a less resolute beast!

Metaphorically, that is....


61 posted on 06/03/2013 11:55:53 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: Errant
I do. Have a CPA. I had some interest I wrote down from right on front of the check that wasn't on my IRS 1099 so I report it. He asks me why I report it. I say I'm reporting what i wrote down and would report if I never got a 1099 lol.

It would be easy to make an honest mistake though. Even for a CPA. After I settle down I go over my federal and state returns line by line. I understand most of it except this year I didn't know how to treat a certain kind of income and my CPA had to find out.

Many pitfalls is right. Most of those pages don't apply to most of us. I shudder to think if they take charge of Obamacare how taxpayers will deal with it. There will be a lot of angry people.

62 posted on 06/03/2013 11:57:51 AM PDT by Aliska
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They can’t take 10 million individual’s houses...


They just need to push the paper, and not kick you out.


63 posted on 06/03/2013 12:01:45 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Oppression -> Extermination)
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To: Aliska
I say I'm reporting what i wrote down and would report if I never got a 1099 lol.

That's me. I report everything, even if someone hands me a $100 bucks for doing something for them. Otherwise, I wouldn't be on FR and even mentioning the IRS... lol

64 posted on 06/03/2013 12:04:47 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant
I hear ya. I found out that if you have people do work for you and they charge and pay in cash, you have to issue a 1099, I think if it's over $600. It was for business purposes. I don't know if it applies to work you have done around the house.

Well, that can get iffy. I'll have to find out because I have my yard mowed now and they bill me.

65 posted on 06/03/2013 12:18:37 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Aliska

That is true, and the timeline for getting them into the hands of the recipient isn’t that long after the first of the year. Otherwise you’re fined, if you miss the deadline, used to be $25 (I believe) each.


66 posted on 06/03/2013 12:26:26 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant
I didn't know you are fined, well that makes sense. You have to BUY them (the 1099 forms) from the IRS. That doesn't make sense, used to be paper all over the place at tax time. At least that's what my CPA said. Luckily my CPA had a few extras when mine came up. Now that's one if somebody hadn't given me a head's up, I wouldn't have known about.

Well, it's a slow finish so far today to the market. That's something new that I'll have next year. Slow finish today, probably speed up here shortly.

67 posted on 06/03/2013 12:38:07 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Mr. Quarterpanel
The working premise is easy: If you do not pay your taxes, you will go to prison. Arguments to the contrary and phoney baloney tactics are like a thicket of reeds against the IRS's sharp machete. Once cut down and pushed aside, nothing will stop them from putting you in prison.

I have a buddy that informed me that: "they can't put you in prison because there is no such thing as debtors prison anymore" (LOL!)

68 posted on 06/03/2013 1:00:14 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

House to house is the plan.


69 posted on 06/03/2013 1:35:21 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Errant

He’s not principled, and he’s not very smart, in my opinion. Frugal, independent living is the legal and moral way, but it requires self-discipline and hard work (examples, gardening, building one’s own heating system to cut heating costs). But the IRS still goes after those who do it the legal and moral way for some very interesting and wasteful cases (see law-abiding peasants resembling those in Monty Python shows in Tax and District courts).


70 posted on 06/03/2013 2:03:27 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Errant

I rarely read WorldNetDaily but did read the whole article this time. We do each require maintenance, at costs, in order to produce labor, but that maintenance would consist of certain necessities—not luxuries. “Reasonable,” you know.


71 posted on 06/03/2013 2:31:50 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Errant

Where I wrote,...

But the IRS still goes after those who do it the legal and moral way for some very interesting and wasteful cases (see law-abiding peasants resembling those in Monty Python shows in Tax and District courts).

Monty Python - Always Look on the Bright Side of Life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHPOzQzk9Qo


72 posted on 06/03/2013 2:42:15 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Errant
This guy has a bit of a screw loose. Section 61(a) of the Internal Revenue Code:

"(a) General definition

Except as otherwise provided in this subtitle, gross income means all income from whatever source derived, including (but not limited to) the following items:

(1) Compensation for services, including fees, commissions, fringe benefits, and similar items; "

So he would have to successfully argue that (i) this statute is unconstitutional, which from the article he seems unwilling to make, or (ii) that there is something else in the subtitle that provides that compensation from services, which may or may not be wages, does not constitute gross income, which there is not.

And he keeps talking about prosecuting him. There is a whole lot the IRS can due to collect unpaid taxes that is not prosecution, such as imposition of liens on property and garnishment of wages or other income. Prosecution is merely icing on the cake as far as the IRS is concerned and the more publicity he gets the more likely it is that prosecution will be forthcoming.

73 posted on 06/03/2013 2:58:43 PM PDT by KevinB (A country that would elect Barack Obama president twice is no longer worth fighting for.)
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To: edcoil
Maybe not, there is no law you have to pay taxes, lots of folks pay no taxes I believe the law is you must file and there is no time limit on filing so if the IRS comes after him he simply files those returns - he then may or may not have any tax liability.

I have a law degree and a Master of Laws in Taxation from the top program in the country and there is nothing in your statement that is remotely accurate. I don't work for the IRS and don't like paying taxes any more than anyone else, but it's not helpful to spread inaccurate information.

74 posted on 06/03/2013 3:04:04 PM PDT by KevinB (A country that would elect Barack Obama president twice is no longer worth fighting for.)
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To: Errant
I feel more justified in my decision to go Galt after Obama came to power, though I've backslidden some.

Smart decision Mr. Galt since you would likely end up in prison where this guy is ultimately going to go......

75 posted on 06/03/2013 3:08:33 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: Errant
He cites a case in the past were the court ruled that it wasn't income, because your labor is considered an expense to you.

Even if that was a legitimate argument how would he argue that he needn't file a tax return for any interest or dividends he received? At the income levels discussed in the article it's very likely he had some of that type of income. (I know you were just summarizing his argument, not necessarily agreeing with it.)

76 posted on 06/03/2013 3:08:34 PM PDT by KevinB (A country that would elect Barack Obama president twice is no longer worth fighting for.)
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To: Truth2012
I know for a fact that part of the reason the Legislature is promoting dropping the income tax is because it is “illegal” to tax that money twice.

How do state income taxes constitute double taxation if they are deductible on one's federal return?

77 posted on 06/03/2013 3:10:41 PM PDT by KevinB (A country that would elect Barack Obama president twice is no longer worth fighting for.)
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To: MrB
Similar to barter - I give you a basket of tomatoes in exchange for a bag of cucumbers.

And both of us are required to report the fair market value of what we received as income. The problem with barter transactions from the government's perspective is not that they are non-taxable (they clearly are), but that there is no practical way to track them.

78 posted on 06/03/2013 3:16:13 PM PDT by KevinB (A country that would elect Barack Obama president twice is no longer worth fighting for.)
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To: Minutemen
I have a buddy that informed me that: "they can't put you in prison because there is no such thing as debtors prison anymore" (LOL!)

One won't go to prison for not being able to pay the taxes owed. One will go to prison for not filing returns and for lying to or misleading the IRS about what is owed.

79 posted on 06/03/2013 3:21:52 PM PDT by KevinB (A country that would elect Barack Obama president twice is no longer worth fighting for.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If 100 million or even 10 million citizens spread all over the country refuse to pay the income tax, what would they do?

ROFLMAO! Good luck with that, you're not even going to get a posse' if the SHTF. All the big talkers hereabouts have jobs, mortgages, truck payments, boat payments, kids in college and kids with soccer practice this weekend.

They're gonna be too busy for the revolution........


80 posted on 06/03/2013 3:22:03 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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