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Cruz Calls for Abolishing IRS, Moving to ‘Simple Flat Tax’
National Review Online ^ | June 3, 2013 | Andrew Johnson

Posted on 06/03/2013 9:36:15 AM PDT by neverdem

Senator Ted Cruz offered a solution to the IRS’s scandal: get rid of the agency entirely and simplify the tax code so that tax returns fit on a piece of paper the size of a postcard.

“We ought to abolish the IRS and instead move to a simple flat tax,” Cruz said on Fox News over the weekend.

“Put down how much you earn, put down a deduction for charitable contributions, for home mortgage, and how much you owe,” he continued. “It ought to be just a simple, one-page postcard.”...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: abolishirs; flattax; irsscandal; tedcruz
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To: Nip

Yes, you’re right, of course.

My answer was the brief version; I suffer from typing-phobia.


21 posted on 06/03/2013 9:49:20 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: neverdem

I like the thousands of pages now that tell me how not to pay taxes!!!


22 posted on 06/03/2013 9:49:21 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: skeeter

I don’t think senator Cruz is asking. He works for us


23 posted on 06/03/2013 9:49:44 AM PDT by stanne
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To: neverdem
Go read The FairTax Book by Neal Boortz and former Rep. John Linder. By the time you're finished, realize what they emphasize is wrong with the current income tax system is completely correct--and then some!
24 posted on 06/03/2013 9:50:12 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

everybody pays 10%, no deductions for anything, no expenses count
everybody including companies charities and everybody pays 10%.


25 posted on 06/03/2013 9:51:21 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: neverdem

Freedom requires a zone of privacy around an individual including financial privacy.

We need a system of taxation that does not require an individual citizen to give up personal information to a bureaucrat or a bureaucracy.

An individual needs to have the right to keep his assets and where he parks his money private.


26 posted on 06/03/2013 9:51:57 AM PDT by marron
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To: stanne

I’m referring to the general nature of bureaucracies.


27 posted on 06/03/2013 9:52:05 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: neverdem

This should go viral. Go Ted!


28 posted on 06/03/2013 9:52:51 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Personal Deduction of $5,000 per person in the Household. That will take care of the basic cost of living for low income households.

Include all sources of income, work, investments, welfare, housing allowances and food stamps.

Tax the remainder at 10%.


29 posted on 06/03/2013 9:53:13 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (America has a two Party system, the Tea Party and the Communist Party.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
I’m all for a flat tax but how does it remain a flat tax when there are deductions?

1. Eliminate the Corporate tax.

2. Eliminate all deductions

3. Charge a 15% on income above $20,000.

It is flat above $20,000. We could eliminate #3, but I do want an incentive to get people to work.

30 posted on 06/03/2013 9:54:41 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: neverdem

This would not actually end the IRS, though it would significantly reduce it in size. Somebody would have to root through all those postcards, and they would still need all the information to verify whether the information within was accurate.

The problems begin with exceptions, many of which are legitimate. Say a woman earns $100k, but she has 12 children and extensive medical bills. Thus her gross is high, but her net is small.

Compare her to a retired couple who earn $100k from a home business, but own their own home, have minimal medical expenses, so whose net is maybe 4/5ths of their gross.


31 posted on 06/03/2013 9:54:52 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: skeeter

I don’t think senator Cruz is asking. He works for us


32 posted on 06/03/2013 9:55:07 AM PDT by stanne
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To: neverdem
Amen. Abolish the IRS. Do reforms for a fairer tax.

The economy would boom to where citizens would be experiencing less government unfairness in this current governmental taxation overreach scheme.

33 posted on 06/03/2013 9:56:20 AM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Venturer
everybody pays 10%...

Wrong. That's still "income tax", which is itself one of the most intrusive, un-American, and gestapo-like institutions we have, and allows the government to snoop on your income. It should be based entirely on the consumption end of the equation.
34 posted on 06/03/2013 9:57:02 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Las Vegas Ron
IT'S NOT POSSIBLE WITH INCOME ~ any stream of income arrives in your hands in fits and starts on its own schedule ~ or not ~ which means the complexity begins literally with the idea that income can be taxed in some manner.

This is just one of many reasons why the income tax is an antiquated, even archaic, hangover from our more primitive ancestors who imagined a man's life could be evaluated in terms of a family annuity of so many Quid per Month, or Pounds per Year!

35 posted on 06/03/2013 10:02:27 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Christie at the beach

It would certainly force government shrinkage like icewater.


36 posted on 06/03/2013 10:03:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: taxcontrol
Let each state determine for itself what taxes will be raised.

That would require the 17th Amendment get yanked......and I like it!!

37 posted on 06/03/2013 10:05:49 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (The government rejects the natural law because it is an obstacle to its control over us.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Doesn’t matter. It isn’t the job of government to equalize lives. It is their sole responsibility to fund the government. Anything else is over the line.
Flat tax for everyone.
If one couple saves, invests wisely, and lives within their means, good for them. Maybe the other woman needed to look at whether she could afford 12 kids before she asks for tax relief.

Everyone from pauper to millionaire should pay the same percentage.


38 posted on 06/03/2013 10:06:30 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: spokeshave

Last partial update, March 2013.

Russia has a uniform rate of tax on the income of individuals. As of 2013 tax in Russia is payable at the rate of 13% for an individual on most income. (non-residents 30%). Russian residents pay 9% on dividend income. (Deduction at source).
Non-residents pay 15% on dividend income.
Exemptions are granted to certain income earners.
The standard rate of Russia corporate profit tax in 2013 is 20%.
Companies pay 9% tax on dividend income. Under certain terms dividend income received by companies with holding of 50% or more is entitled to participation exemption.

Russia Income Tax for an Individual

An individual is liable for tax on his income as an employee and on income as a self-employed person. Tax will be payable on income earned in Russia and overseas by an individual who meets the test of a “permanent resident” of Russia.
A foreign resident who is employed in Russia pays tax only on income earned in Russia.
To be considered a Russian resident, residence must be established of at least 183 days in Russia during 12 months in a calendar year.
An employer is obligated to deduct, immediately, each month, the amount of tax and national insurance due from a salaried worker.
A self-employed individual is obligated to make advance payments on income tax that will be offset on filing an annual report. In the case of a new business, the advance payments will be calculated on the basis of the business owner’s estimate. The advance payments will be made at least 3 times in each year.
Certain payments are deductible from taxable income as detailed below.

Russia Corporate Tax

The tax on company profits is made up of 2 rates:
- Federal tax - -2%.
- Regional tax - 18% (with a possible incentive reduction of up to 4.5%).
The maximum profit tax is 20


39 posted on 06/03/2013 10:07:35 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: Errant; taxcontrol
AMEM! Abolish the stupid and tyrannical 16th Amendment...

...and the 17th!

40 posted on 06/03/2013 10:07:55 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (The government rejects the natural law because it is an obstacle to its control over us.)
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