Posted on 06/01/2013 1:21:54 PM PDT by Monty22002
Jean Stapleton, who played Archie Bunker’s long-suffering wife Edith in the long-running 1970s television series “All in the Family,” died Friday at her New York City home. She was 90.
Stapleton died of natural causes, her family announced Saturday.
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Thanks for my Super Lotto winning numbers.
Thanks, and you are right, All in the Family was a leap forward for the left, a breakthrough series.
You are blatantly mis representing what I said. Again I said the politics are *irrelevant* to its quality and that you can find political positions *everywhere*. You consistently try to dodge aesthetics matters and turn the discussion into a personal inquisition. The fact is that the liberal position WAS often mocked by AITF as anyone who watched it regularly would understand. That doesn’t make it conservative or anything else.
Those numbers are sure to win.
Art and Commerce do often intersect.
True, one just has to decide if Thomas Kinkade is “art”.
I’m not misrepresenting you, that is why I listed the posts.
At some point of your efforts on this thread, you have said just about everything, in an effort to keep protecting the politics and cultural effect of the very damaging series by the radical left wing activist, Norman Lear.
The series sucked in my opinion, you really feel so emotionally hurt that a mature person on and adult political forum, didn’t like a Norman Lear sitcom?
I’m no William F Buckley, but I have always seen TV as a lowbrow, low quality distraction for non-readers, I have seen a few good things on TV, including a few TV series, but I never saw a Norman Lear sitcom that I felt was great art, nor were the few good things worth owning and watching TV for.
Oh come on now. Is all pop music like Barry Manilow?
My comments have been totally consistent in terms of my aesthetics. I’m not protecting it from anything. I’m stating that I thought it was funny and very well done and was a step up from the likes of ‘My Favorite Martian’ and ‘My Mother the Car’ which was standard TV fare before AITF. If you didn’t like it all well and good. I’m not hurt at all. Just amused that you feel the need to so prolong what’s just a disagreement about a TV show. Agree to disagree.
Why don’t you ask Vladimir Ashkenazy. Or Yo Yo Ma. Or Martha Argerich. Or Harold Bloom about Stephen King.
Low brow is low brow, penny dreadful is penny dreadful, velvet Elvis is flea market stuff. Just like TV sitcoms.
One can denigrate all pop culture I guess because it’s not as good as its high culture equivalent but that’s no fun. Besides the line isn’t always as clear. To take one example, in pre war Italy, opera was very much a popular art. Yo Yo Ma has been involved in some really cheesy crossover projects so he doesn’t seem to know where the line is either.
In the spin-off “Gloria,” they had moved into a commune where he cheated on her. She ends up working for Burgess Meredith at an animal clinic. She’s got sole custody of “Little Joey.” The show didn’t last long but it had a great scene where Meredith’s character and another man play checkers with shots of alcohol.
Archie Bunker = Alf Garrett
Gee Borges, it was you that started posting to me.
I even expressed a plea that you not turn this into another one of your endless pursuits of me.
To: Borges
LOL, please don’t let every thread about movies and TV always involve you coming at me to defend the left and liberalism.
I don’t think there is any doubt about what Norman Lear’s goals were and what All in the Family was meant to do.
40 posted on 6/1/2013 2:08:23 PM by ansel12
Your comments have been totally consistent towards you defending the shows liberalism and trying to cut off discussion of it.
There were versions of the show in Germany and Brazil too. I guess the concept applies to a lot of cultures. Incidentally the actor who played Alf Garnett is still alive.
I’m not cutting off discussion of anything and you know it.
I never said the line was clear. But the line is clear with such superstars as Liberace, Wayne Newton, and most of if not all TV sitcoms. And it’s great, fantastic when a songstress like (first name that pops in mind) Marianne Faithful can make art of popular songs, or when Tom Waits does it, or when producers of a TV series based on PG Wodehouse succeed. But one needs to learn to discern and discriminate and freely reject, because, as Theodore Sturgeon noted, 90% of everything is crap.
“90% of everything is crap.”
Indeed it is. But AITF is in the team photo with ‘I Love Lucy’ and ‘The Honeymooners’ and The Simpsons too I guess (at its best).
Wow, you are amazing and casually, repeatedly dishonest.
To: ansel12
This isn’t a thread about politics. If you want to discuss getting rid of income taxes and the ongoing Islamic war against the West that’s a different topic/thread. Art transcends politics.
61 posted on 6/1/2013 2:41:44 PM by Borges
I was stating an aesthetic position because you had accused me of ‘faulty politics’. People can discuss what they want and others can respond how they want.
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