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To: SvenMagnussen

Thanks for the info, Sven.

If you have actual documentation that Obama ever lost his citizenship, it would be a good time to produce it. Otherwise... it’s all academic.


209 posted on 05/19/2013 9:51:03 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston

Try to look at the big picture, Jeff. First of all, natural born citizenship status is not held in perpetuity, i.e. it can be lost with the issuance of a CLN. Also, any U.S. citizen, regardless of age or ability to make a convincing argument, can move out of the country and renounce their U.S. Citizenship.

Did you know there are instances where dead U.S. Citizens have renounced their U.S. Citizenship? Like a small child, they are not able to make a convincing argument they know the consequences of an Oath of Renunciation. Consequently, their legal representative must make their case for them. A small child, a dead person, a person who does not read or speak English can have a CLN issued to them through a convincing argument by their legal representative.

We know Obama was enrolled as Barry Soetoro, Indonesian National, on Jan 1, 1968. He could not have done that without a CLN issued to him prior to this time. Further evidence of Obama’s foreign nationality can be obtained by examining his NUMIDENT with SSA. In 1977, Obama was a permanent resident alien entitled to a SSN. Tax exempt Catholic Social Services of Connecticut contracted with HHS at the time to provide foster care services to minors with foreign nationality. At the time, only foreign nationals could be enrolled in the Federal Foster Care program.

Any determination of eligibility will have to be accompanied by an examination of the candidate’s immigration file if the candidate has ever lived outside of the country. Obama has taken advantage of the false narrative natural born citizenship status is held in perpetuity. Obama’s immigration file includes a Certificate of Naturalization issued in 1983.


233 posted on 05/19/2013 1:12:08 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen.)
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