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To: DiogenesLamp
Bull****. Neither said a thing about the meaning of natural born citizen in The Venus.

Just keep telling yourself that Jeffy Baby.

Here's the link to the Opinion in The Venus, you jerk.

Now give me the quote from Chief Justice Marshall, where he mentioned "natural born citizen" or "natural born citizenship." And give me the quote from Justice Washington, in which he mentioned "natural born citizen" or "natural born citizenship."

Failing that, give me the quotes where they spoke of Presidential eligibility.

264 posted on 05/13/2013 7:40:08 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston
The quote that Marshall uses talks about natural citizenship at birth:
The whole system of decisions applicable to this subject rests on the law of nations as its base. It is therefore of some importance to inquire how far the writers on that law consider the subjects of one power residing within the territory of another, as retaining their original character or partaking of the character of the nation in which they reside.

Vattel, who, though not very full to this point, is more explicit and more satisfactory on it than any other whose work has fallen into my hands, says

"The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives or indigenes are those born in the country of parents who are citizens. Society not being able to subsist and to perpetuate itself but by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights."

The society canot perpetuate itself but by the children of citizens. These children naturally follow the condition of their fathers. The NATIVES are those born in the country of parents who were it citizens.

The U.S. Constitution was established by we the people for ourselves and our posterity ... IOW, for the citizens and the children of citizens. The natural status at birth is to follow the condition of the father, thus = natural-born citizen. natives or indigenes are those born in the country of parents who are citizens.

Several years later, the Minor court unanimously affirms this concept and says that natural-born citizens are the same as natives: all children born in the country to parents who were its citizens.

If we go by Marshall in basing such questions on the law of nations, and recognizing that children naturally follow the status of their fathers, then neither Obama nor Cruz nor anyone else not born to a citizen father is a natural-born citizen.

265 posted on 05/15/2013 11:03:43 PM PDT by edge919
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