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To: Jeff Winston
These posts are getting beyond stupid.

All you need to do is look at the IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY ACT itself, and it clearly states that Cruz's Citizenship is through 'Naturalization'. I guess you can't understand that 'Naturalization' can be an automatic process.

Here is section 320, the one that applies to Cruz.

"Sec. 320. [8 U.S.C. 1431] (a) A child born outside of the United States automatically becomes a citizen of the United States when all of the following conditions have been fulfilled:

(1) At least one parent of the child is a citizen of the United States, whether by birth or naturalization.

(2) The child is under the age of eighteen years.

(3) The child is residing in the United States in the legal and physical custody of the citizen parent pursuant to a lawful admission for permanent residence.

(b) Subsection (a) shall apply to a child adopted by a United States citizen parent if the child satisfies the requirements applicable to adopted children under section 101(b)(1) . "

The title of the chapter that section is in? "CHAPTER 2 -- NATIONALITY THROUGH NATURALIZATION"

Cruz is obviously a naturalized US citizen. And contrary to belief, he WAS NOT a US citizen at the time of his birth! Notice the law says "automatically becomes a citizen of the United States when all of the following conditions have been fulfilled". So, Cruz was not even a naturalized US citizen until he was 4 years old, and his family moved to the US, and condition "3" was satisfied!!!

Why do people refuse to accept the plain simple truth, if you want to change the Constitution there is a process for that, you can't simply choose to ignore whatever parts you want to, otherwise the whole thing is useless!
349 posted on 05/14/2013 12:11:10 PM PDT by MMaschin
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To: MMaschin
These posts are getting beyond stupid.

I won't say the matter has been beyond stupid from the beginning. But I do think there has been dishonesty from the very beginning by some people who have made the extraordinary citizenship claims.

By "extraordinary," I mean claims that have no credibility at all in history or in law.

All you need to do is look at the IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY ACT itself, and it clearly states that Cruz's Citizenship is through 'Naturalization'. I guess you can't understand that 'Naturalization' can be an automatic process.

The First Congress passed a "Naturalization Act" in 1790, less than 2 years after the Constitution was ratified and became the supreme law of the land. That Act specified that children born abroad to US citizens were to be considered as natural born citizens, provided only that the father had lived in the US at some point in his life.

The Congress and President that approved the Act included 40% of the Signers of the Constitution.

So it is clear that the Signers of the Constitution believed Congress had the power to specify, through a "naturalization act," who among those born abroad were to be legally considered as natural born citizens, and thus eligible to the Presidency.

Here is section 320, the one that applies to Cruz.

I don't know Cruz's family history in intimate detail, but assume his dad wasn't a US citizen yet. So almost certainly, the section that applies to him is Section 301(a)(7):

Sec. 301(a) The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:...

(7) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable serivce in the Armed Forces of the United States by such citizen parent may be included in computing the physical presence requirements of this paragraph.

This is why every major commentator who publicly comments on it says he's most likely eligible.

350 posted on 05/14/2013 6:52:20 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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