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To: mazda77

His mother is American. His father, a Cuban, didn’t get his US citizenship until 2005. Meaning Cruz isn’t a NBC. End of story.


31 posted on 05/06/2013 7:29:30 AM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: bgill

Then that settles it. I asked the question because I did not know. You answered it to support your point which with that tidbit of information is correct.

Now, can Cruz be out there as a Trojan Horse on this issue, which is exactly what is happening. He so clearly is scaring the crap out of them, as evidenced by Corporal Cue Ball’s comments this weekend. So go ahead an draw the liberal birthers out and then they have made our point.


52 posted on 05/06/2013 7:46:15 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: bgill

He got his citizenship by birth alone. He never had to be naturalized. The constititution mentions three statuses. Aliens (he is not) Citizen (can include immigrants), and the smaller subset of citizen “Natural Born”.

If you are a citizen, and didnt get naturalized, you are natural born.
Cruz qualifies easily.


73 posted on 05/06/2013 8:26:55 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: bgill

...His father, a Cuban, didn’t get his US citizenship until 2005. Meaning Cruz isn’t a NBC. End of story.


How is the father’s status relevant to citizenship status if the mother’s status is replied upon?


77 posted on 05/06/2013 8:35:01 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Oppression -> Extermination)
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To: bgill

Thanks for the tidbit on the Cruz’s father.

It was interesting that only the mother’s citizenship is referenced. I suspected that the father, like Rubio’s parents, was not formally naturalized until after the birth.

Any link to reference the father’s naturalization date? Just for reference. Not questioning at all.

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So now we have a person born to a single US citizen mother abroad. By a Congressional approved man made law she was able to pass citizenship at birth. But its not natural born citizenship. It is a form of naturalization - from birth.

For those who say (incorrectly) that being a citizen or qualified to be a citizen AT birth is the sole determining factor of Article II, Section 1 status you are wrong.

The situation of Puerto Rico proves this. Some (Fox News) says that those born in Puerto Rico are natural born Citizens and eligible to old the Peoples office of President. Not so, citizens of Puerto Rico are US citizens under COLLECTIVE NATURALIZATION. That is a fact it is referenced in numerous government documents. They are definitely and without a doubt NATURALIZED. Naturalized citizens can not be natural born Citizens. The two sets do not intersect.

So citizen AT birth is the criteria for natural born status - Peurto Rico proves it.


87 posted on 05/06/2013 9:07:54 AM PDT by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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