Posted on 04/26/2013 1:58:11 PM PDT by Borges
It’s a very good “period” piece. You get a good image of the roaring 20s sort of urban America.
It is puffed up to be more, but for what it is, it’s perfectly good.
“why the boys jump up and take on the female roles.”
‘cause it’s funny. Most boys love to laugh.
“I have not read Bell Tolls...I assumed Sun also rises and farewell to rms were the best novels?”
(you didn’t ask me, but. . .)
I thought For Whom the Bell Tolls was superlative, and it is sort of defense of the socialist cause in Spain - I recall it follows socialist activist, I am sure my fellow FReepers will gleefullly correct me if I’m wrong - so that is an amazing declaration by me.
It did not make me a socialist (obviously), but it is character driven and really fascinating.
If I could take the time to find out I would. I remember analyzing “Hills Like White Elephants” in school and the symbolism is brilliant and inspiring.
These stories are well written. I don’t argue the poetry in Fitzegerald, the story itself is. . . Well it’s a hard sell.
Yes, and great art can have this as an intention.
However, where's the great novel writer who depicts the uber wealthy as wholesome, happy people I ask you?
Overwhelmingly the left-centered artist depicts the upper class in a horrid way and then their socialist buddies promote the false image to a gullible public, even compelling young minds to soak up the twisted point of view at a young age in lit class. Didn't The League of American Writers (commie group), in fact, have this as its aim back in the 30's?
Tenth g boys are the funniest creatures.
It’s their humor that SNL started on.
If someone were to go to a lunchroom, listen in and put it out in skits on Saturday night they’d have a hit.
Were selling the classic cover and have no intention of selling the new one.
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Good! Why would anyone want to book that has the homely and untalented DiCaprio and the other Hollywood morons?
Wholesome and well adjusted people aren’t interesting. Shakespeare didn’t center too much around them either. Fitzgerald was hardly an activist in the Dreiser mode.
want to book = want the book
Dicaprio is highly talented.
DiCaprio is a cure for insomnia.
I didn't say he was an activist; however, the practice of not presenting the wealthy in an accurate way is still present.
Wholesome and well adjusted people arent interesting
I find them very interesting. And millions of people who watched "Leave it to Beaver" or "The Bill Cosby Show" also apparently felt the same way.
Who is that homely girl?
No one can compare with Mia Farrow in the role of Daisy. She was absolutely stunning.
That’s mass market pabulum. Art is supposed to disturb. Angels aren’t interesting. Dickens and Dostoevsky would have these sorts of characters...angelic, innocent young women...and they are a bore. There’s no concept of ‘accuracy’ in fiction only consistency within a given work. The point isn’t to be accurate but to be vivid. If you want the analog of the ‘Filthy Rich’ depictions just look at how negatively poor and middle class people are depicted in ‘Winesberg, Ohio’ and the Spoon River anthology from about Fitzgerald’s time. It’s not so much Class based as Freudian...seemingly well adjusted people/communities have a seedy underbelly.
I like some of Fitzgerald’s other stuff - he wrote some fine essays and the Pat Hobby stories are fun. But Gatsby bored the crap outta me.
—— Dostoevsky would have these sorts of characters...angelic, innocent young women...and they are a bore. ——
Huh? Doestoevsky is the only novelist who matters. His understanding of human nature is profound.
You haven’t read “Pride and Prejudice”.
The Colin Firth version (film) is very well done.
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