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To: Nachum

I know this is not the popular opinion here but he should have been read his Miranda rights from the git-go. He may be a dirbag terrorist, but he is a US citizen and must be afforded due process. If they can pull this crap on him they can pull it on any of us.


5 posted on 04/25/2013 9:23:08 PM PDT by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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Is he a citizen? I thought he was still on a visa of some sort.

There was much discussion over whether he should be considered an “enemy combatant” and therefore not required to be ‘Miranda’d”.


10 posted on 04/25/2013 9:26:12 PM PDT by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: sean327
but he is a US citizen and must be afforded due process.

If Djirtbag took the following oath with reservations, did he become a citizen?

Naturalization Oath of Allegiance to the United States of America

"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the armed forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."

11 posted on 04/25/2013 9:30:44 PM PDT by gasport (I ain't got no guns.)
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To: sean327
I know this is not the popular opinion here but he should have been read his Miranda rights from the git-go. He may be a dirbag terrorist, but he is a US citizen and must be afforded due process. If they can pull this crap on him they can pull it on any of us.

Absolutely right! While I don't like the easy process by which Tsarnaev became an American citizen, the fact is that he is a naturalized citizen and is therefore entitled to every right thereunto pertaining until he is convicted of the crimes for which he is charged.

23 posted on 04/25/2013 9:41:59 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: sean327

Wrongo Bongo. He is a freaking terrorist and was afforded all health care rights as a US citizen but the public exemption act was in place and this beyotch had him awakened so he could be “mirandized”. You can’t be questioned in a48 hour period if you are unconscious due to administered drugs.
B/effin/S


24 posted on 04/25/2013 9:42:12 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: sean327

If only this dirtbag terrorist wasn’t citizenized under false pretenses I’d have to agree.


36 posted on 04/25/2013 9:53:08 PM PDT by printhead (Standard & Poor - Poor is the new standard.)
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To: sean327
I am astonished anyone is still gnawing on this bone. With an abundance of physical evidence to convict, statements by the perp will be unnecessary to try him. If his statements are not to be used as evidence, the "Miranda" warning is irrelevant.

On the other hand, continued interrogation could have yielded more useful information about others involved, including connections to people in or close to the regime--which is why the judge was sent in to shut him up by reminding him to "remain silent."

50 posted on 04/25/2013 10:42:50 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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And, he hasn’t shut up since being read his rights. Additionally, he and his idiot brother confessed to a third party who can testify, the carjacking victim. Most defense lawyers would try to exclude anything said prior to him being read his rights. He’s going away forever, if not being put to death.


60 posted on 04/26/2013 1:15:32 AM PDT by AnAmericanInEngland
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To: sean327

They filed charges. Charges are followed by a preliminary arraignment. The magistrate reads a colloquy that includes informing the defendant of his rights to legal representation, bail and to remain silent. It is pretty much a standard script.

I guess the FBI guys never arrested and arraigned anyone before or they would have known this. Holder had nothing to do with it. It is legal SOP. The US attorney. Should have thought through this if they wanted to deviate from the normal rule of criminal procedure.


61 posted on 04/26/2013 2:29:58 AM PDT by SargeK
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