[sonofagun]

"The rights were always there, the decision was that the police had to WARN you that you had those rights before they started asking you questions. The decision conveyed no rights. It compelled the police to WARN you that you had the right to not talk to them - which is ALWAYS a good idea."

THIS bears repeating.

Miranda conveys NO rights. Miranda simply makes one aware of rights one already has as a US citizen!

[allmendream]

Yes, as if the suspect had no rights until the Judge ‘waltzed’ in and GAVE HIM rights - rights for some reason known as “Miranda”.

Rights cannot be given or taken away - they are either recognized or not - you are either advised (or warned upon arrest) of your rights or not. The Miranda decision said that Police must advise you of your rights upon arrest - the Police do not GIVE you rights and the rights are not “Miranda rights”.

Thanks for the support!