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Ron Paul fans furious over Rand Paul's drone flip-flop
Foreign Policy ^ | April 23, 2013 | John Hudson

Posted on 04/23/2013 4:18:10 PM PDT by BfloGuy

Ron Paul's vibrant fan base is in open rebellion today over Rand Paul's reversal on domestic drone strikes. The Kentucky senator, whose famous 13-hour Senate floor filibuster did much to strengthen his ties with his father's hardcore following, told Fox Business Network on Tuesday he's OK with drone strikes on American citizens who, for instance, rob a liquor store

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: paiultards; randsconcerntrolls; waronterror
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I've been pretty impressed with Rand Paul. But things change.

Too many FReepers seem to think that we must all rally 'round a candidate for 2016 quickly. We can't.

We have the luxury of watching them and watching them screw up. Then we get to hear them walk back what they said. This is a very disappointing statement from Paul and seems to go against everything he supported in his famous filibuster.

Now, it may well turn out that he's been misquoted. But caution is always advised. We mustn't make up our minds too soon. Had already been watching Cruz -- will continue to do so.

And, yes. He is eligible. He's a natural-born citizen. He didn't have to be naturalized. So, don't start that stuff.

1 posted on 04/23/2013 4:18:10 PM PDT by BfloGuy
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To: BfloGuy

They are trying to discredit him. There has been NO flip flop.

None, Zero, Nada.

If you go back and watch his filibuster he says.... except in cases of an imminent threat.

He has not changed his position one iota.


2 posted on 04/23/2013 4:20:04 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: BfloGuy

Rand Paul DID NOT say he was for drone strikes, he said SURVEILANCE

using them to search for the bombers with infra red is no different than the helicopters that were doing it

he said nothing about drone STRIKES - but they immediately jumped on him as if he did


3 posted on 04/23/2013 4:20:37 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: BfloGuy

Was that a drone that had the IR camera looking into the boat where Terrorist #2 was caught?


4 posted on 04/23/2013 4:21:36 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: BfloGuy

I think its probably too soon for Cruz but he’s pretty solid.

Of the 2012 stable Santorum is the only one who looks like he might be running which is OK with me. Cruz would certainly be a fine VP pic.


5 posted on 04/23/2013 4:23:15 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: BfloGuy

This guy is just making it up based on his one preconceived notions of how is a Rand Paul “fan” thinks.

Does he even know there are two Pauls?


6 posted on 04/23/2013 4:25:24 PM PDT by DManA
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To: BfloGuy

The cult is trying to lay claim to all future generations of RonPaul.


7 posted on 04/23/2013 4:25:27 PM PDT by NoLibZone (None here can be puzzled by why Jews walked into the cars so quietly- we are walking up the planks.)
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To: FReepers; Patriots; FRiends


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8 posted on 04/23/2013 4:26:18 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Mr. K

He basically said all citizens are the property of the government, and they can do whatever they want with their property.


9 posted on 04/23/2013 4:26:20 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: onyx

How true those words are these days.


10 posted on 04/23/2013 4:32:30 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: BfloGuy

Well I was ready to go all in on Rand but between his ill conceived immigration stance and this drone carpola forget it.


11 posted on 04/23/2013 4:34:46 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

We sure miss him!


12 posted on 04/23/2013 4:36:28 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: BfloGuy
I was agreeing with you until you got to the NBC part about Cruz. Canada is not US territory and only his mom was a US citizen. His father didn't become a US citizen until 2005, IIRC.

Why not instead push Cruz as Senate Majority leader, something he is qualified for and would find wide and earnest support for? How I long for such a person in that position!

Cruz for President is Constitutionally divisive and you will turn off those whose votes you need to win. You will never convinced them, just like Romney couldn't change minds against him and those otherwise reliable voters stayed home.

I hope the GOP powers that be will not overplay the Cruz card which, if well played, could go a long way to restoring Constitutional governance.

13 posted on 04/23/2013 4:38:54 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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“I’ve never argued against any technology being used when you have an imminent threat, an active crime going on,” Paul said. “If someone comes out of a liquor store with a weapon and fifty dollars in cash. I don’t care if a drone kills him or a policeman kills him.”

Sounds like he’s ok with a bit more than just surveillance here.


14 posted on 04/23/2013 4:39:18 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: ConservativeMan55

I was ready to go all in for Rand but this is insane. He apparently has no clue of what a hellfire missile does. Not to mention he seems to have no more problem with the drones suveilling everything as long as its not your backyard barbeque. Rand you have some maturing to do before you are ready for primetime.


15 posted on 04/23/2013 4:42:28 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: BfloGuy
These comments that he made to me doesn't sound like a person who is out there protecting my liberties for the future. I don't believe there should be any surveillance with a drone on a US citizen. As some are saying they could strike a US citizen with a drone. That's not my America.
16 posted on 04/23/2013 4:43:19 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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I know. So some guy say comes out od a liquor store in downtown Chicago or New York or wherever with 50 bucks in one hand and a 22 in the other and Paul is just fine with taking him out with a missile or two?

Cavuto should have asked him if he’d be ok with a B1 or maybe an AC130 if the predator can’t get the job done


17 posted on 04/23/2013 4:47:09 PM PDT by jeltz25
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“I’ve never argued against any technology being used when you have an imminent threat, an active crime going on,” Paul said. “If someone comes out of a liquor store with a weapon and fifty dollars in cash. I don’t care if a drone kills him or a policeman kills him.”

Sounds like he’s ok with a bit more than just surveillance here.

The point was never the technology, it was the use. If it's ok for a cop to shoot an armed robber why wouldn't be ok to use a drone? That's not the point.

18 posted on 04/23/2013 4:50:56 PM PDT by mlo
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To: jeltz25

“I know. So some guy say comes out od a liquor store in downtown Chicago or New York or wherever with 50 bucks in one hand and a 22 in the other and Paul is just fine with taking him out with a missile or two?”

I have to say I still cannot believe I heard Rand Paul say it was OK to drone a guy running out of a liquor store with $50 in his hand. Its unbelievable.

Our only hope is that Jim DeMint will run.


19 posted on 04/23/2013 5:06:03 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: BfloGuy

Natural-born...in Canada. lol.


20 posted on 04/23/2013 5:08:01 PM PDT by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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