slow learners
Both look like they rode the short bus.
There was a woman in a youtube video that was reported here that made the claim that we need to get over this idea that the kids belong to the parents and they are really the children of all of us.
I disagree with her and I defend this couple’s right to pursue healing of their children as they see fit. Only God is above the parents in the parenting hierarchy. Both of these kids were their kids to raise as they saw fit. They alone are responsible for their actions and responsible to God.
Now, if they were actively abusing their kids I might feel differently, but my bar is pretty high on that one too. It is a principle thing: They are not my kids.