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To: OKRA2012

What if a child is hit by a car and is critically injured, can a parent refuse have the child treated by medical professionals?


My personal take is, yes. But I don’t think I would get support from my government on that one.

Again, it is a principle thing for me. Principles are more important than life itself, and before the state became all powerful this was the type of decision that was left to the parents. We may have disagreed with their decision, but we defended their right to make it. Thing is, Christians see this life as infinitely brief. All men live the exact same length of time. We call that time “today”. None of us have a lasting future - in this body. If ones parents make poor choices when you are in their care, you may see fewer “todays” but they will answer to God for their misshandling of your future.

And to one degree or another, we all misshandle our children’s future. I don’t like getting between parents and their children except in “over the top” circumstances (e.g. the mother in Carrie).


18 posted on 04/23/2013 10:54:28 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

Thanks for the thorough and honest response.

No, do you believe that parent of a dead minor child can refuse an autopsy on the child in cases where the child died from some type of physical trauma or mysterious circumstances?

Keep in mind that an autopsy is conduced by a medical doctor.


26 posted on 04/23/2013 11:00:48 AM PDT by OKRA2012
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To: cuban leaf

Thanks for the thorough and honest response.

Now, do you believe that parent of a dead minor child can refuse an autopsy on the child in cases where the child died from some type of physical trauma or mysterious circumstances?

Keep in mind that an autopsy is conduced by a medical doctor.


30 posted on 04/23/2013 11:04:17 AM PDT by OKRA2012
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To: cuban leaf

> Principles are more important than life itself

Anyone withholding medical care from their children and letting them die, has no principles.


42 posted on 04/23/2013 11:17:07 AM PDT by soycd
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To: cuban leaf; stuartcr

I want to thank you both - I think.

That’s the problem. Now I’m going to be (as my #1 Son tells me frequently) “overthinking” this for the rest of the day.

It’s one of those tricky problems where I can see both sides having a modicum of merit. I know that in my own life (regarding that son I just mentioned) we did a lot of *BOTH* praying and medical attention. Just recently, after many years of struggle, he finally received a pancreatic transplant which has been a life-altering experience for all of us.

But I still firmly believe that prayer had a lot to do with it - and his surgeon agrees.

Being a fan of old movies and old TV shows, I sometimes watch “Marshall Dillon” with James Arness. In those old shows from the 50’s and early 60’s one is struck by the “hands off” attitude that is taken when it came to legal intervention in people’s lives. The pervasive feeling was the castle doctrine expanded beyond merely defending from invasion, but covering all aspects of life on a person’s estate.

That said, I have to say that I shudder at the mental image of homelife conjured up by the photos of the “parents” at the top of this thread. I am forced to make myself intellectualize the situation by reminding myself that sin and imperfection is pervasive in all of us the only difference being in type and degree - and that degree being far more perceptible from a human perspective rather than a divine one.

I’m tempted to say at this juncture I would have to come down on the side of parental autonomy, difficult as it may be to stomach in cases such as this.

I wonder how many of the folks who would force medical treatment on these unwilling parents would at the same time condone the slaughter of those same children in the womb. (Not asserting mind you - just wondering.)


76 posted on 04/23/2013 11:52:39 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: cuban leaf

glad you werent my parent so that I might have had to die on behalf of your pronciples!


125 posted on 04/26/2013 10:59:52 AM PDT by cajungirl
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