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To: Arthur McGowan; MacMattico
Two points:

1) The 4th Amendment prohibits UNREASONABLE searches and seizures—not “illegal” searches and seizures.

2) The 4th Amendment does NOT say that no search may be conducted without a warrant. Read it. Carefully.


You are correct.

....what was the alternative?

Agreed. The alarmists on FreeRepublic don't ever have an answer for this question though.
11 posted on 04/22/2013 7:24:39 PM PDT by brent13a
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To: brent13a
The alternative? Are you saying that all those LEO agencies, with all their training, equipment, experience and so forth at their disposal the best they could come up with was a plan that required for them to break from their primary duty that they are swore to that is to protect and uphold the Constitution of the United States?

And then we have Freepers The Harry Reid talking about 'imagined tranny' nothing about it was imagined.

Benjamin Franklin - "Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."
21 posted on 04/22/2013 7:42:27 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: brent13a; Arthur McGowan; MacMattico

What is the alternative? The way we normally operate, in harmony with our Constitution.

Knock, identify, ask for permission. Ask questions to determine if the people in a home are under duress, if not, move on.

It’s not like the search actually found the guy. So all of the searches were an abject failure.

But any day, the police could go into downtown Chicago, and do a door-to-door like this in any public housing apartment complex, and find dozens of criminals. It’s a great way to catch criminals — and it only requires that you throw out the freedoms we hold dear.


28 posted on 04/22/2013 7:52:46 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: brent13a

This issue becomes admissibility of evidence.

If the search is illegal then all the evidence obtained of that search is “fruit of the poisonous tree” and inadmissible.

Now if a police officer is in “hot pursuit” and the suspect runs through an illegal operation in a house, which is in PLAIN sight, then the people running the illegal operation are hosed. (for those in rio linda think a large pile of pot on a coffee table in the middle of the living room)

I do expect lawsuits to go flying regardless. Just because there is an issue does not give the police unfettered ego trips to play judge jury and executioner.


104 posted on 04/23/2013 7:47:42 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: brent13a; Jim Robinson

>> “Agreed. The alarmists on FreeRepublic don’t ever have an answer for this question though.” <<

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Spoken like the true statist brown shirt shill that you are.

The answer is known by all, and need not be spelled out.

You need the zot for trying to goad anyone into making such a post.


167 posted on 05/01/2013 9:30:43 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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