Posted on 04/22/2013 6:31:08 PM PDT by grundle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LrbsUVSVl8
Published on Apr 20, 2013
WATERTOWN, MA -- On Friday, April 19, 2013, during a manhunt for a bombing suspect, police and federal agents spent the day storming people's homes and performing illegal searches. While it was unclear initially if the home searches were voluntary, it is now crystal clear that they were absolutely NOT voluntary. Police were filmed ripping people from their homes at gunpoint, marching the residents out with their hands raised in submission, and then storming the homes to perform their illegal searches.
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This was part of a larger operation that involved total lockdown of the suburban neighbor to Boston. Roads were barricaded and vehicle traffic was prohibited. A No-Fly Zone was declared over the town. People were "ordered" to stay indoors. Businesses were told not to open. National Guard soldiers helped with the lockdown, and were photographed checking IDs of pedestrians on the streets. All the while, police were performing these disgusting house-to-house searches.
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You should not. There is a clear line that should not be crossed: random searches (no matter what the circumstances) are illegal.
Did anyone resist?
Consent by coercion is not consent.
Harry Reid is that you? More ‘Imagined Tyranny’?
Oh wait a minute that's Lidice not Watertown
Oh wait a minute that's Lidice not Watertown
The Boston incident showed us exactly why Obama and his fellow Communists can and will seize control and turn this nation into a Marxist State: The people will gladly allow it.
As long as there is excitement in the air and drama on TV they will sit on their lazy asses long enough for the conversion to happen.
The Marxists could do this literally overnight. All they have to do it create a situation that they then can tell the entire country to “Shelter in Place”, then put on TV and radio all the new rules the people will live by come morning. The people would be happy to comply.
The Marxists could put some drama entertainment on TV and show those not complying being arrested and attacked and the people would clap and cheer.
To quote a movie, and I never quote movies, “So this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause.”
Booooom. Truthbomb.
You make it seem like coppers were going out in battalion strength, door to door, from West Roxbury to Littleton, waving guns around, and throwing old ladies and children out of their houses and into the streets. That did not happen.
You're being exceptionally melodramatic. The coppers were given an immensely difficult task, and they did it as well as they possibly could. Check my posting history if you think I've come to this conclusion because I'm a jackboot licker.
Again, I ask - given the circumstances, what should they have done?
If the house-to-house search had uncovered a coven of Al Qaeda terroristas, I wonder if you'd be singing a different tune . . .
Perimeter search, only requires a quick check into each vehiccle leaving.
If the house-to-house search had uncovered a coven of Al Qaeda terroristas, I wonder if you'd be singing a different tune
I wonder how many more stupid hypotheticals I'm going to have to read before people finally come to their senses? An illegal search is illegal!
The boat that the killer was hiding in was just outside the perimeter set the night before. If that boat had been inside the perimeter, are you saying that a search of that boat would have been illegal? I would have considered that boat within the curtilage of the home due to the relatively small size of the property and location in a suburban neighborhood.
They certainly were out in more than Battalion strength, and going door to door, and they certainly were brandishing their firearms, and they did indeed order families out of their homes at gunpoint. There is ample video and photo documentation of all of the above.
Oh, I concede that you are correct about the geographics. I wouldn't write home about that, though.
Fire, medical emergency, other emergencies all apply to specific premises with specific evidence of the emergency.
are you saying that a search of that boat would have been illegal?
Of course, unless the homeowner specifically consented to the search.
“There are more people right now worrying about Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Constitutional rights then there was people worried about the Constitutional rights of all those people who were locked down and had their homes searched.”
Nearly as bad: There are people wanting to violate Tsarnaev’s constitutional rights and simply execute him. Sure, we all believe he is guilty and deserves execution once tried but their entertainment/anger is leading their thoughts and simple public execution is what they are demanding.
Exigent circumstances doctrine applies to a particular place, not a broad area. The Fourth Amendment still controls. There must be a particular place to be searched, and a particular person or items to be seized.
By your stated interpretation, police may do anything they wish to save lives, or property (whaaaat?), once "exigent circumstances" exist.
I didn’t ask that. Did anyone actively resist?
Cool. Is this an actual transcription of Boston?
You ask the wrong question because you are looking for a criminal case (e.g. arrest of a resisting homeowner) that is equivalent to asking for a unicorn. This is Watertown, chock full of neutered disarmed pussies. What do you think.
So no. Ok.
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