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Texas Fertilizer Plant Failed To Disclose Massive Amount Of Ammonium Nitrate
TPM ^ | 4/20/13 | IGOR BOBIC

Posted on 04/21/2013 11:22:36 AM PDT by OKRA2012

The West, Texas fertilizer plant where a powerful explosion killed at least 14 and injured dozens on Wednesday failed to disclose a massive ammount of ammonium nitrate ordinarily regulated by federal officials, according to Reuters.
The U.S. Department of Homeland Security requires fertilizer plants and depots to disclose amounts of ammonium nitrate, which can be used to make a bomb, above 400 lbs. The West, Texas plant, West Fertilizer, reportedly held 270 tons of the substance, 1,350 times that limit.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: manufacturing; osha; westtexas
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To: TigersEye

The regulations often only regulate one way. Companies cannot build their plants near human habitation when their effluents may be hazardous to human health, but that doesn’t stop humans from being stupid and building their homes near those plants.


41 posted on 04/21/2013 12:07:40 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: OKRA2012

Obviously the plant’s 270 tons of nitrate exceeded the quantity distance formula by being so close to a town.


42 posted on 04/21/2013 12:10:34 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: TigersEye
There was a school and a nursing home right across the street from this plant. It’s a Federal felony to get within 1,000 ft. of a school with a lawfully carried firearm but there aren’t any regulations about how close you can put an ammonium nitrate plant?

Did you not even read the first sentence excerpted from the article?

"The West, Texas fertilizer plant where a powerful explosion killed at least 14 and injured dozens on Wednesday failed to disclose a massive ammount of ammonium nitrate ordinarily regulated by federal officials, according to Reuters. "

43 posted on 04/21/2013 12:14:32 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: Red Steel

“...exceeded the quantity distance formula by being so close to a town....”
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No such formula exists.
You don’t know what you’re talking about.


44 posted on 04/21/2013 12:14:42 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: OKRA2012

BS. People handling that stuff are highly trained to handle it. What is the government not telling us and what are they up too? Why all of the sudden are we being attacked?


45 posted on 04/21/2013 12:15:03 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Repeal The 17th

No BS to you - it does. For explosives, DoD develop quantity distance formulas years ago for high explosives based on how much explosives can be stored in a location based on how it’s stored, and the distances from inhabited buildings, roads, and other explosive sites that are in the vicinity that could propagate the original detonation.


46 posted on 04/21/2013 12:19:38 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: freekitty

“BS. People handling that stuff are highly trained to handle it. What is the government not telling us and what are they up too? Why all of the sudden are we being attacked?”

Do you have evidence that would indicate that the volunteer firefighters who put water on the ammonia nitrate and caused the explosion were maliciously attacking the people of West, Texas?


47 posted on 04/21/2013 12:23:02 PM PDT by OKRA2012
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To: Red Steel

Link?
This reported paperwork filing discrepancy has nothing to do with that.


48 posted on 04/21/2013 12:23:35 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: TigersEye

I presume Obama did not/will not make an appearance at a memorial serive and give one of this robotic speeches.


49 posted on 04/21/2013 12:23:55 PM PDT by Jane Austen (Boycott the Philadelphia Eagles!)
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To: Strategerist
It's hard to distinguish sarcasm from stupidity on this board a lot of the time...

Interesting. You think the people on this board are stupid, yet you post here. Should I be thanking you?

50 posted on 04/21/2013 12:26:38 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Repeal The 17th
No, you find the link. The information comes from my military background. I'll get you started Goooooooooogle it.
51 posted on 04/21/2013 12:27:47 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: dfwgator

They guilty parties are probably in bits and pieces.


52 posted on 04/21/2013 12:30:55 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: OKRA2012
The West Disaster could have been caused by human error or perhaps is was something like a lightning strike.

Or perhaps deliberate sabotage.

Do you remember Bhopal?

How about the USS Miami?

53 posted on 04/21/2013 12:31:24 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: Red Steel

The CFATS rules have nothing to do with “where” a facility is located;
they only address on-site security.
Look it up for yourself, you DA.


54 posted on 04/21/2013 12:31:52 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Cyber Liberty; Strategerist

Steady there. Even the best of us will occasionally say something stupid, even while sober and well rested...


55 posted on 04/21/2013 12:34:28 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: Repeal The 17th
Obviously you're in a defenses mode for whatever reason. I don't give a crap about this thread or if the the plant was in compliance with OHSA standards. That's their problem.

Look it up for yourself, you DA.

Your idea in the first place - DA

56 posted on 04/21/2013 12:38:01 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

https://csat.dhs.gov/pls/apex/,DanaInfo=.arfizigFj0j36L1521Qy7D,Port=7777+f?p=128:1:0:::::


57 posted on 04/21/2013 12:38:47 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: dfwgator

Read in a European news website that the West, TX plant hadn’t had a mechanical integrity inspection since 1985 because OSHA was undermanned.

My immediate reaction: why do I read this in the European news?


58 posted on 04/21/2013 12:39:19 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not indicate whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: null and void

Yeah, you’re right. I probably just took that the wrong way because I haven’t had my beer yet.

I have a list:

Groceries
Laundry
Baseball
Beer

Groceries are supposedly vital, laundry’s not looking good, and the D’Backs are on a losing streak. And I guess I could scrape by w/o the groceries if I have to, but then I’d have to think of something besides my beef stroganoff for dinner. I already have Mrs. Liberty sold on the stroganoff, so I better get going, right?

Then beer! Yes!


59 posted on 04/21/2013 12:50:33 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Then beer! Yes!

Yes!

Nothing but the best for you:

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60 posted on 04/21/2013 12:52:28 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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