[DManA]

You're right, during the Middle Ages, I would say Christianity was the bigger problem.

We are starting to realize that the reason there was a middle [dark] age is because Islam terror drove Christendom into it.

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

We are starting to realize that the reason there was a middle [dark] age is because Islam terror drove Christendom into it.

It's just beginning. Our schools are working overtime to perpetuate the myth.

The truth has many enemies.

[plain talk]

Yes ... Far fewer people were killed in the name of Christianity than Islam during the middle ages. It is just more newsworthy because people sort of expect muslims to kill.

[ckilmer]

You’re right, during the Middle Ages, I would say Christianity was the bigger problem.

We are starting to realize that the reason there was a middle [dark] age is because Islam terror drove Christendom into it.
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Mohammed and Charlemagne Revisited:
The History of a Controversy
by Emmet Scott
New English Review Press · 2012 · 270 pages
$19.95 · Kindle version $9.95

Mohammed & Charlemagne Revisited by Emmet Scott

Throughout the coastal areas surrounding the Mediterranean Sea, archaeologists have uncovered a layer of subsoil that was deposited over a period of three hundred years beginning in the middle of the seventh century AD.

This stratum, named the “Younger Fill” by the geologist Claudio Vita-Finzi, covers the ruins of all the major cities and settlements that were established along the Mediterranean littoral during classical antiquity. It stands as a coda to Graeco-Roman civilization. For three centuries after the year 650 the archaeology of the region is all but barren. Wastelands or severely diminished primitive settlements have replaced the formerly great cities of the Roman Empire and the Near East.

One might surmise that the Younger Fill is the result of some yet unidentified climatic trauma that afflicted the entire Mediterranean basin. However, the same phenomenon has been observed in an entirely different watershed: Mesopotamia, the land drained by the Tigris and Euphrates in what is now Iraq, and also including the coastal regions adjoining the Persian Gulf.

During the same period — from the middle of the seventh century until the middle of the tenth — archaeology in the entirety of Europe and the Middle East virtually disappears. This civilizational interruption might be thought a result of the Dark Ages in Europe, except for the fact that it includes areas of the Middle East which were never part of the Roman Empire, and where advanced cultures independent of Rome and Greece had flourished.

What all these areas have in common, of course, is that they were conquered by the Arabs during the initial period of Islamic expansion, when the Near East, North Africa, and Iberia were subjugated within the space of less than a century.

Islam came to the Mediterranean and left as its principal legacy the Younger Fill.
http://gatesofvienna.net/2012/08/who-really-killed-the-pax-romana/

[sbark]

There were 463 years between Mohammed’s death in 632 AD and the calling of a Crusade to free lands that had been Christian before the Muslim invaders arrived; but to hear what passes for common “knowledge” [from self-hating Christians at that!], the whole affair was solely the fault of power-hungry popes, greedy soldiers of fortune, and Christians who were persecuting harmless, pious Muslims minding their own business. Muslims are only too happy to help Christians perpetuate this mea maxima culpa attitude. Stenhouse[see note below] lists only some of the events that took place in those 463 years, among them, 633 – Mesopotamia falls to Muslim invasion, followed by the entire Persian Empire 635 – Damascus falls 638 – Jerusalem capitulates 643 – Alexandria falls, ending 1,000 years of Hellenic civilization 648-49 – Cyprus falls 653 – Rhodes falls 673 – Constantinople attacked 698 – All of North Africa lost 711 – Spain invaded 717 – Muslims attack Constantinople again; repelled by Emperor Leo the Isaurian 721 – Saragossa falls, Muslims sights on southern France 720 – Narbonne falls 732 – Bordeaux was stormed and its churches burnt down 732 – Charles Martel and his Frankish army defeat Muslims, turning back the Muslim tide 732 – Attacks on France continued 734 – Avignon captured by an Muslim force 743 – Lyons sacked 759 – Arabs driven out of Narbonne 800 – Muslims incursions into Italy begin, Islands of Ponza and Ischia plundered 813 – Civitavecchia, the port of Rome sacked 826 – Crete falls to Muslim forces 827 – Muslim forces begin to attack Sicily 837 – Naples repels a Muslim attack 838 – Marseilles taken 840 – Bari falls 842 – Messina captured and Strait of Messina controlled 846 – Muslims squadrons arrived at Ostia, at the Tiber's mouth, sack Rome and St. Peter’s Basilica 846 – Taranto in Apulia conquered by Muslim forces 849 – Papal forces repel Muslim fleet at the mouth of the Tiber 853 – 871 – Italian coast from Bari down to Reggio Calabria controlled, Muslims terrorize Southern Italy 859 – Muslims take control of all Messina 870 – Malta captured 870 – Bari recaptured from the Muslims by Emperor Louis II 872 – Emperor Louis II defeats a Saracen fleet off Capua 872 – Muslim forces devastate Calabria 878 – Syracuse falls after a nine-month siege 879 – Pope John VIII forced to pay tribute of 25,000 mancuses (AUD$625,000) annually to the Muslims 880 – Byzantine Commanders gain victory over Saracen forces at Naples 881 – Muslims capture fortress near Anzio, plunder surrounding countryside with impunity for forty [40] years 887 – Muslim armies take Hysela and Amasia, in Asia Minor 889 – Toulon captured 902 – Muslim fleets sacked and destroyed Demetrias in Thessaly, Central Greece 904 – Thessalonica falls to Muslim forces 915 – After three months of blockade, Christian forces victorious against Saracens holed-up in their fortresses north of Naples 921 – English pilgrims to Rome crushed to death under rocks rolled down on them by Saracens in the passes of the Alps 934 – Genoa attacked by Muslim forces 935 – Genoa taken 972 – Saracens finally driven from Faxineto 976 – Caliphs of Egypt send fresh Muslim expeditions into southern Italy. Initially the German Emperor Otho II , who had set up his headquarters in Rome, successfully defeated these Saracen forces 977 – Sergius, Archbishop of Damascus, expelled from his See by Muslims 982 – Emperor Otho’s forces ambushed and his army defeated 1003 – Muslims from Spain sack Antibes 1003-09 – Marauding bands of Saracens plunder Italian coast from Pisa to Rome from bases on Sardinia 1005 – Muslims from Spain sack Pisa 1009 – Caliph of Egypt orders destruction of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem, the Tomb of Jesus 1010 – Saracens seize Cosenza in southern Italy 1015 – All Sardinia falls 1016 – Muslims from Spain again sack Pisa 1017 – Fleets of Pisa and Genoa sail for Sardinia, find Saracens crucifying Christians, drive Saracen leader out. Saracens try to re-take Sardinia until 1050 1020 – Muslims from Spain sack Narbonne 1095 – The First Crusade. While the pope has apologized for the Crusades, Muslims have never so much as acknowledged any responsibility. Why? Note: For additional reading, see “The Crusades In Context” by Dr Paul Stenhouse

[Almondjoy]

That’s awfully revisionist. The Catholic Church has plenty of demons but I would also agree that a vast majority of them are in the past. I would just suggest that we don’t forget that power corrupts.

[DannyTN]

"We are starting to realize that the reason there was a middle [dark] age is because Islam terror drove Christendom into it."

That's what I learned in grade school way back in 1972. But I bet that's not what they teach now.