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Gingrich Slams Obama Administration as ‘Pro-Islamic’
WSJ ^ | February 28, 2012 | Danny Yadron

Posted on 04/20/2013 6:43:23 AM PDT by george76

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To: okie01

I respect your wisdom and advice but young people like myself do not like war. we have lived through 9/11 and iraq and do not want any more thank you.

We will be paying the bills for a long time for these adventures....

Bring the troops home.

Deal with these nutjobs as the criminal cowards they so obviously are.

Dont let them shut cities and states down...


281 posted on 04/21/2013 6:06:22 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: PghBaldy

well i just remembered him going soft all of a sudden, figured this must have been recent.


282 posted on 04/21/2013 6:09:15 PM PDT by jjw
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To: JohnPDuncan
I respect your wisdom and advice but young people like myself do not like war. we have lived through 9/11 and iraq and do not want any more thank you.

Sonny, I lived thru WW II, the Korean conflict, the Cold War, volunteered to serve in Viet Nam, not to mention everything since.

If you self-righteously deny war, then, by damn, it's going to find you.

Whether you like it or not, war is a fact of history. And, if it comes to you, as it will, and you refuse to fight it, you will lose everything.

End of wisdom. And good night.

283 posted on 04/21/2013 6:12:15 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: JohnPDuncan

I’d prefer not to “need” Moslems for anything...

However, we know they are organizing, in order to ultimately see Shariah Law in Governance, state by state, and this actively looking at potential third party candidates, as they believe both parties have failed them.

We already have Moslem State Gov. and that occured because they were organized well in that state.

Moslems are not for or against a candidate as much as they are looking for the quickest route to implement their ideology...Mosques are highly active in organizing Moslems....under the disguise of “community Services” which are simply recruiting methods they use.

And just so you know...they are targeting people to convert who they know have guns....police officers, military etc. and the like...and they do convert!


284 posted on 04/21/2013 7:03:33 PM PDT by caww
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To: okie01

Bravo!......and thank you for fighting for my freedom!


285 posted on 04/21/2013 7:14:50 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

constitution is the supreme law not sharia. most of them know it.


286 posted on 04/21/2013 7:14:56 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: JohnPDuncan

They intend to have Shariah work with and along side our Governance...even though ISlam is completely and diametrically opposed to our constitution.


287 posted on 04/21/2013 7:20:34 PM PDT by caww
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To: JohnPDuncan

Warnings of a looming Islamic takeover have come from Republicans who were running for president:

Michele Bachmann declared:... “Sharia must be resisted across the United States”

Herman Cain condemned the... “attempt to gradually ease Sharia law and the Muslim faith into our government.”

“I believe Sharia is a mortal threat to the survival of freedom in the United States and in the world as we know it,”... Newt Gingrich

“I believe Sharia is a mortal threat to the survival of freedom in the United States and in the world as we know it,” Newt Gingrich

No foreign Law,... (Jewish, Italian, Swahili or other) trumps the U.S. Constitution.

There is no compulsion in Jewish or Catholic law..... Jewish law doesn’t assert authority over non-Jews,.... Canon Law doesn’t assert authority over non-Catholics......... But the sharia is a complete legal system asserting authority over ‘non-Muslims’ denying them basic human rights


288 posted on 04/21/2013 7:32:42 PM PDT by caww
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To: JohnPDuncan

Moslems were fighting ‘to stop’ legislation in Florida, which would prevent Sariah Law from taking affect in Florida.... They were defeated as of April 8, 2013.

So you see it is not about a candidate...it’s about power Moslems want to fight and get Shariah Law into affect....Portions of Europe already have done so.


289 posted on 04/21/2013 7:47:14 PM PDT by caww
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To: george76

Impeachment File on B. Hussein Obama, aka Barry Soetoro, a legal citizen of Indonesia.


290 posted on 04/21/2013 8:02:03 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: JohnPDuncan

The Reps have always been pro religious freedom. Can you name one GOP Congressman or other community leader who is not pro-religious freedom? Where are you getting these Dem talking points from?


291 posted on 04/21/2013 8:05:19 PM PDT by kabar
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To: JohnPDuncan

Sorry, but money is not the reason why we are being attacked. UBL came from a wealthy family. These are true believers who are willing to sacrifice their own lives to kill the enemy—in many cases their fellow Muslims. You don’t buy suicide bombers.


292 posted on 04/21/2013 8:09:08 PM PDT by kabar
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To: JohnPDuncan
Changing regimes is not the business of the USG... how’d you like the Chinese gov deciding it wanted to change the US regime?

LOL. You are indeed uniformed and ignorant about history. The Soviet Union said they would bury us. Many countries have said they will wipe us off the face of the Earth with NK being the latest. Chairman Mao was no shrinking violet when it came to letting his views known about what he would like to do with the US.

Regimes that pose a threat to this country should be changed. We can do that a number of ways overtly and covertly.

The USG as prescribed by the constitution is to provide for a national defense not change regimes in hellholes around the world.

The US is the leader of the Free World. We have always sought to defend human rights, freedom, and liberty. We have liberated hundreds of millions from tyranny. I lived a few years in Communist Poland. They deeply appreciate the efforts of Reagan, Thatcher, and Pope John Paul II to free them from the Soviets. You don't have a clue what it is like to live in these hellholes. I also was stationed four years in Berlin including when Reagan stood at the Berlin wall and urged Gorbachev to tear down this wall.

Here is a Dem President, JFK, articulating what America stands for:

"There are many people in the world who really don't understand, or say they don't, what is the great issue between the free world and the Communist world. Let them come to Berlin.

There are some who say that Communism is the wave of the future. Let them come to Berlin.

And there are some who say in Europe and elsewhere we can work with the Communists. Let them come to Berlin.

And there are even a few who say that it is true that Communism is an evil system, but it permits us to make economic progress. Lass' sie nach Berlin kommen. Let them come to Berlin.

Freedom has many difficulties and democracy is not perfect, but we have never had to put a wall up to keep our people in, to prevent them from leaving us.

I want to say, on behalf of my countrymen, who live many miles away on the other side of the Atlantic, who are far distant from you, that they take the greatest pride that they have been able to share with you, even from a distance, the story of the last 18 years.

I know of no town, no city, that has been besieged for 18 years that still lives with the vitality and the force, and the hope and the determination of the city of West Berlin.

While the wall is the most obvious and vivid demonstration of the failures of the Communist system, for all the world to see, we take no satisfaction in it, for it is, as your mayor has said, an offense not only against history but an offense against humanity, separating families, dividing husbands and wives and brothers and sisters, and dividing a people who wish to be joined together.

What is true of this city is true of Germany - real, lasting peace in Europe can never be assured as long as one German out of four is denied the elementary right of free men, and that is to make a free choice.

In 18 years of peace and good faith, this generation of Germans has earned the right to be free, including the right to unite their families and their nation in lasting peace, with good will to all people.

You live in a defended island of freedom, but your life is part of the main.

So let me ask you as I close, to lift your eyes beyond the dangers of today, to the hopes of tomorrow, beyond the freedom merely of this city of Berlin, or your country of Germany, to the advance of freedom everywhere, beyond the wall to the day of peace with justice, beyond yourselves and ourselves to all mankind.

Freedom is indivisible, and when one man is enslaved, all are not free.

When all are free, then we can look forward to that day when this city will be joined as one and this country and this great continent of Europe in a peaceful and hopeful globe.

When that day finally comes, as it will, the people of West Berlin can take sober satisfaction in the fact that they were in the front lines for almost two decades.

All free men, wherever they may live, are citizens of Berlin, and, therefore, as a free man, I take pride in the words "Ich bin ein Berliner".

NK is a tough one but guess who gave them the nuke technology: China via Bill Clinton. Another success for US foreign policy. NK is an impoverished state. They’re nothing to worry about... just threats and bluster for food and aid.

You sir are a fool. The US is not the reason why there are bad actors in this world. You are spouting this leftist drivel straight out of Howard Zinn. This discussion is ended. I think you would be better served and welcomed on a liberal site. I don't believe you are a Robert Taft conservative or any kind of conservative.

293 posted on 04/21/2013 8:33:47 PM PDT by kabar
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To: caww

Oops! Didn’t serve. Shoulda said “volunteered...but was declined for physical reasons and classified 1-Y”. Didn’t mean to imply but, upon review, I obviously did.


294 posted on 04/21/2013 8:36:08 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: george76

Of course Newt is right in the remarks the article relates but his use of “pro-Islamic” as a pejorative is loose and, in my opinion, unfortunate. Our deadliest terrorist enemies are disproportionately Muslims and we shouldn’t make any bones about that. On the other hand, it’d pay for conservatives and Republicans not to needlessly antagonize Muslims by saying or suggesting that anti-Islamic attitudes are virtuous across the board. The fact is that Muslims as a group (leaving aside a sizable minority of thugs who need law enforcement’s attention) are a natural Republican constituency. They sure don’t cotton to abortion, fag rights, or feminism. And in 2000 Bush got more Muslim votes than Gore.


295 posted on 04/22/2013 12:30:45 AM PDT by eater-of-toast ("It is much more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones." --Calvin Coolidge)
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To: kabar

Better on a liberal site? Are you kidding?

I’m a staunch conservative who wants to see hardly any Federal government. I want to see it stripped back to its constitutional bare bones. No where in the constitution does it say the US is leader of the Free World. The founders certainly never had that vision of America. That’s your distorted vision.

It’s actually liberal Republicans who were pro-war in the 1940’s and you accuse me of being liberal!

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Taft believed that America should avoid any involvement in European or Asian wars and concentrate instead on solving its domestic problems. He believed that a strong U.S. military, combined with the natural geographic protection of the broad Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, would be adequate to protect America even if the Nazis overran all of Europe. Between the outbreak of war in September 1939 and the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in December 1941 Taft opposed nearly all attempts to aid Allied forces fighting the Nazis in Europe. His outspoken opposition to aiding the Allied forces earned him strong criticism from many liberal Republicans, such as Wendell Willkie and Thomas E. Dewey, who felt that America could best protect itself by fully supporting the British and their allies. Although Taft fully supported the American war effort after Pearl Harbor and the declaration of war on Japan by the U.S. Congress on December 8, 1941, he continued to harbor a deep suspicion of American involvement in postwar military alliances with other nations, including NATO. Taft’s was one of the few voices during the Second World War in opposition to Japanese American internment.

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296 posted on 04/22/2013 4:20:05 AM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: kabar

I also like how you accuse me of being liberal but your quoting the liberal New Englander JFK at me. Nice logic sir.


297 posted on 04/22/2013 4:20:51 AM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: eater-of-toast

It breaks my heart they’re now voting for a socialist.

Oh well.


298 posted on 04/22/2013 4:29:52 AM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: golf lover
Here’s what Obama said last night during a brief statement on Dzhokhar Tsarnaev’s arrest. “Why did young men who grew up and studied here as part of our communities and country resort to such violence?”

Like our state department has never heard of sleeper agents before. Same Bullstalin arguments about how it is "unlikely" that Islamists with PhD.'s would turn terrorist. "They'd be throwing away their future!!!"

299 posted on 04/23/2013 11:38:08 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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