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Now?

Because our food stores are almost depleted from last growing season.

Because even though we’re headed into prime growing season right now, most of the country has yet to plant their fields.

How would that happen if the tractors weren’t functioning? Without step down generators the refineries are out of comission. So are the pumping stations and therefore the pipelines. So are the gas stations. Assuming the farm equipment didn’t succumb to the attack.

How much yield would the fields produce without fertilizer and pesticides? Those depend on fossil fuels and refineries. See above.

How would those get delivered?

How would the crops be harvested?

How would the harvested crops be distributed?

This, strategically, is the perfect time for a strike.

People could grow stuff in their yards in suburbia. IF they had seeds. Most do not. And even if they planted those seeds TODAY, you’re looking at nearly 2 months for anything of significant caloric value to mature. Most of the suburbanites don’t HAVE two months of preps.

Forget the urbanites. There are far more of them and there’s zero arable farmland on paved streets and parking lots. Even if they had seeds. Which they do not. They wouldn’t know what to do with them.

So, long before any crops mature, the social order will have assumed the state of complete anarchy.

Rural people, who have sufficient preps to live long enough to get in a garden will fare much better. Assuming they can defend those food stocks from the millions of urbanites and suburbanites.

And the food question overlooks the more pressing issue of availability of clean water and sanitation. If the power shut off right now. Clean water becomes an issue for most of the country immediately. Soon thereafter sanitation becomes a big issue as well. Even though we’re quite rural, we have a water association that delivers our water. Most people, even out here, no longer have their own wells. Especially any homes built after the water association came into being.

"Even though we’re quite rural, we have a water association that delivers our water. Most people, even out here, no longer have their own wells."

Oh, yeah! New Jersey! Must be rough, being way out there in the middle of nowhere!

;-)

The water plants will run. The sewer plants will work. Toilet paper production will continue. Computers will be in stock outside of affected areas. The folks on food stamps have a the big agricultural/military complex behind them. It's those public school teachers and local bureaucrats losing their big, fat incomes in the default process, who will riot and continue robbing everyone (as seen in Greece, Italy and other southern Mafia countries)!

But you know, we're all going to die someday, anyway--most of us pretty soon and of senility/dementia, from much of what we see in comments to discussion boards. So let's tell our boys in US defense, "Don't just stand there. Nuke something!"

One flaw in the food question is the amount of food you need. Going to some restaurant and getting a 2000+ calorie meal is misleading. People can get by on much less a day. We are conditioned to thinking we need X amount a day when in reality you could eat much less and still be healthy. Our forefathers did. There is a difference between hunger and starving, I venture most Americans (even most EBT’er) have ever been starving, as backed-up by how many fat arses we have in this country.

A loaf of bread, two tomatoes, a couple of potatoes, an onion and a small quantity of meat would last me a week.

Pioneers of this country got by on a small biscuit in the morning a couple pieces of jerky mid-day, and a rabbit or squirrel size meal in the evening with an occasional piece of fruit.