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To: Aetius
"natural conservatives

Yeah, I laugh at those words too. But there is a certain amount of truth to those statements. On many social issues, Blacks and Hispanics are conservatives. But when it comes to extracting money from other Americans to waste er use on privileged minorities, they're more like communists.

I've yet to hear a logical argument from any person who identifies him or herself as a spokesman for their ethnic group explaining how supporting the Democrat Party has helped them achieve anything worthwhile. It's all about taking from someone else and giving it to them on the basis that they (the minority group) are too helpless to do anything on their own. Which is balderdash. The Democrat Party is a gigantic weight around the legs of all Americans especially minority groups.

15 posted on 03/28/2013 3:00:11 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: driftless2
The Republicans figured out that "Growth" is the tried and true key to prosperity. European Americans are just not growing fast enough in number to sustain prosperity.

Enter the new faster-breeding non-European immigrants, already more than 25% of the population and soon to be more than half ... even if all immigration legal and illegal were to be stopped today.

Guess what, Jim. They ain't conservatives. They want the whole American Dream right now. If you have it, they have no qualms about taking it away. Sound like Republicans to you?

The two Party System cannot handle this. Stay tuned.

16 posted on 03/28/2013 7:48:34 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The Obama Molecule: Teflon binds with Melanin = No Criminal Charges Stick)
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To: driftless2

Yeah, on a few social issues (like gay marriage) blacks and Hispanics may be conservative. But I think that’s overstated, and it’s also almost meaningless. Blacks voted for the marriage Amendment in NC last year, and then voted for Obama a few months later. And if Hispanics were as socially conservatives as dolts like Rove would have us believe, then why haven’t they injected even the slightest bit of social conservatism into the Democratic party? Why are pretty much all representatives from heavily Hispanic districts so far left on pretty much everything?

I guess my main point is that it doesn’t really matter how socially conservative blacks or latinos are because other issues on which they are liberal (like economic/redistribution ones you mention) clearly matter more to them. So the idea that Republicans can make significant inroads with minorities based on social issues is a long shot at best.

And doesn’t it seem odd that the postmortem on the GOP’s 2012 loss contains contradictory messages? On the one hand we’re told that Republicans should be able to win over lots of Hispanics because of family values and social issues, if only they’d go liberal on immigration. Yet we are also told that family values rhetoric and social issues are what drives single women, voters in the North East, and upscale suburban whites from the GOP.

It’s enough to make me suspect that perhaps these liberal pundits offering this free advice to the GOP don’t exactly have the GOP’s best interests at heart.


18 posted on 03/28/2013 8:42:22 PM PDT by Aetius
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