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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
You claimed that the Founders considered themselves to be Aliens, not natural-born citizens, of the country they just created, and furthermore, that the entire population of the United States had to be naturalized and take oaths of loyalty before they could be considered citizens.

So what does an Naturalization Act DO except naturalize an alien?

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I found that an extraordinary claim and asked for some historical evidence. You've provided references to naturalizations in Massachusetts

The fact the early Naturalization Acts were recognizing natural born citizens has been on these threads for over a week now. Not one time have I seen you question their validity. Until I reference back to the exact same Acts and the exact same verbiage….then suddenly these facts become questionable.

Anyone who will discount the same piece evidence based strictly on whether or not they are in agreement with the source it came from has indeed, already made up their mind.

That being the case, I see no point in continuing the conversation.

Have an exceptional evening.

492 posted on 03/28/2013 7:13:32 PM PDT by MamaTexan (Please do not mistake my devotion to fairness as permission to be used as a doormat)
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To: MamaTexan
The fact the early Naturalization Acts were recognizing natural born citizens has been on these threads for over a week now. Not one time have I seen you question their validity. Until I reference back to the exact same Acts and the exact same verbiage….then suddenly these facts become questionable.

My understanding was that Jeff was posting those Acts to show that sometimes they said "natural born citizen" and sometimes "natural born subjects." I only had to read them to see that--I didn't have to wonder who was being naturalized and why. But when you claim that they're examples of how everyone in the US at the time had to be naturalized, and how the Founders considered themselves to be aliens...well, that seemed like such an extraordinary claim that then I asked who and why. I don't question the verbiage or the existence of the Acts, I question your assertion about what they represent.

That being the case, I see no point in continuing the conversation.

I'm sorry if asking you to back up an assertion you apparently can't support causes you to run away. You have a good evening too.

501 posted on 03/28/2013 7:38:32 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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