Posted on 03/26/2013 5:52:31 PM PDT by cradle of freedom
Go back and read--really read--my posts, not what you want to put into them, but what I wrote.
And then go perform unnatural acts with yourself like you did with my statements.
But if a cop caught your girlfriend with her face in your lap at the drive-in, you could both go to jail in a lot of states.
So normal people fought laws which made fellatio (performed by a woman) and cunnilingus (performed by a man) a felony.
No joe, it wasn’t normal people fighting to end centuries of sodomy laws and legalize homosexuality
ansel12, do you understand that fellatio performed by a woman and cunnilingus performed by a man are not homosexual acts?
You are one confused guy, read my posts on this thread and you can answer your ridiculous question yourself.
Joe, it was my post 111 that started you on your long winding road of arguing and evading, and defending the pro-gay political groups and movements.
Post 111, is a simple accurate fact.
If you're worried about the Republican Party becoming corrupted by them, you are about twenty years too late.
When you stop slinging pseudo-political labels long enough to quit pigeonholing people and see the real problem, maybe you'll have a clue.
Joe, the problem is the political forces, parties and individuals that support the homosexual agenda, libertarianism is a pro-homosexual, pro-abortion ideology and that is what they promote in America in elections and political discussions.
Libertarians are a part of the gay movement and support homosexualizing the military, gay marriage, homosexual adoption and so on.
Don’t keep trying to pretend different, like you coming out against that anti-gay marriage, anti-homosexual law in Texas.
I didn't "come out" against anything in Texas, dumbass.
I told you why straights were against the Sodomy laws of the 1960s because they banned heterosexual acts.
In fact, my position on homosexuals, especially in the Boy Scouts as scoutmasters is made plain to all but the most incredibly dense person elsewhere on this same thread, and has been made clear numerous times in the 30-odd thousand posts I have made on Free Republic.
No matter how many times you try to pin some crap on people, that doesn't make them what you say just because You said it. No matter how much you try to twist my statements, that doesn't make you right.
It damned sure doesn't change my position on anything.
What you have accomplished, however is you have shown yourself to be a contentious anus.
Why don't you go pick a fight with your cat? It is more in your weight class.
Except that you lied and reversed the actual truth to protect the libertarian Pro-homosexual groups, the straights were the ones trying to pass the anti-gay marriage, anti-sodomy laws, to fight the homosexual agenda.
The homosexual supporters were fighting to block the law, just as the left and libertarians succeeded in ending the universal, centuries old sodomy laws in the last 40 years, making homosexuality legal and giving us “gay marriage”.
Your Republican Liberty Caucus group naturally took the pro-homosexual action of fighting a sodomy and gay marriage law proposed by Texas republicans.
Here is a list of fellow pro-homosexual agenda groups considered working for the gay agenda within the right, by this homosexual site.
http://www.lavenderbutnotpink.com
Homocon Organizations
Log Cabin Republicans
Gay Republicans.
GoProud
The Rattigan Society
Gay Objectivists.
SOLO: Sense Of Life Objectivists
Gay Objectivists.
Outright Libertarians
Gay Libertarians.
Republican Liberty Caucus
For gay and gay-friendly Republicans.
You sure seem to know a lot about homosexuals. You must be one.
If I were homosexual, I would be applauding your efforts on this thread as you defend the pro-homosexual activist groups as you support and defend their efforts to block anti-homosexual laws.
“In Lawrence v. Texas (2003), the U.S. Supreme Court ruled 6-3 that Texas’ sodomy statute was unconstitutional, marking a major legal victory on the path towards LGBT equality. With the remainder of state sodomy laws technically invalidated by Lawrence, the LGBT community began to shift its focus. Alexis Agathocleous, staff attorney with the Center for Constitutional Rights, recently wrote:
Coming seventeen years after Bowers v. Hardwick, the Supreme Court’s seething antigay decision that upheld a Georgia sodomy law, Lawrence felt like a sea change. Laws actually criminalizing the community, many people assumed, were a relic of the past. And accordingly, the LGBT rights movement shifted gears: litigation, lobbying, advocacy, and resources in the years since Lawrence have overwhelmingly focused on civil institutions such as marriage and visibility in the mainstream media. In short, the mainstream LGBT community stopped talking about criminal justice.
Eight years later, however, eighteen states still refuse to rewrite their laws and take these anti-gay relics off their books, with countless LGBT Americans continuing to feel their devastating effects as a result.”
I don't know anything about any pro-homosexual groups, YOU ARE THE ONE WHO KEEPS POSTING ABOUT THEM, NOT ME.
I don't have anything to do with Texas, you idiot, I'm on the other end of the US.
I am, however weary of your slanderous fictions regarding me, regarding what sexual practices or behaviours I supposedly advocate, and regarding what I have supposedly said on this thread.
I am a great-grandfather six times over, but if you were standing in front of me, I'd have slapped your teeth out your butt long ago, you keyboard coward.
Quit posting bullsh*t about me.
Or are you spouting your ASSumptions about what you think a libertarian is from reading your pro-homosexual propaganda from some bunch that calls themselves "L"ibertarians.
Sh*t, Bloomberg calls himself a "Republican", too.
I bet you subscribe to all the homosexual newsletters.
You need to go back and look at your posts on this thread and what you have been posting, and who you have been defending.
You were defending the movement to block gay marriage and sodomy laws, and doing it by claiming that it was the normal people fighting them, when in reality, it was the normal people trying to pass them, and the homosexuals and libertarians trying to block them.
If you are against homosexuality, then quit fighting for the pro-homosexual libertarian movement.
I don’t know how you could be so insanely confused as to think that libertarians are against homosexuality and the homosexual agenda.
Libertarians are ANTI-conservative, they are AGAINST social conservatism and want to over throw it.
FIRST, IF AND THAT IS A BIG IF YOU HAD READ WHAT I WROTE, YOU WOULD HAVE REALIZED I WAS PROVIDING INFORMATION, NOT ADVOCACY. THE EARLIER LAWS DID NOT SPECIFY THAT THOSE ACTS HAD TO BE PERFORMED BY MEMBERS OF THE SAME SEX TO BE CONSIDERED "SODOMY"--THAT DEFINITION INCLUDED A WOMAN PERFORMING FELLATIO ON HER HUSBAND OR A HUSBAND PERFORMING CUNNILINGUS ON HIS WIFE. THOSE ACTS, UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, ARE CONSIDERED HETEROSEXUAL BEHAVIOUR, BUT WERE, LEGALLY, CONSIDERED "SODOMY". THOSE LAWS WERE REPEALED IN THE 1960S AND 1070S.
I SAID NOTHING ABOUT TEXAS OR CURRENT PROPOSED LEGISLATION, I WAS REFERRING TO LAWS WHICH WERE REPEALED OR AMENDED IN THE 1960S AND 1070S AT THE BEHEST OF HETEROSEXUALS SO HETEROSEXUALS COULD HAVE FULLER SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEIR SPOUSES WITHOUT BEING UNDER THREAT OF FELONY CHARGES. NO ONE GAVE A RABID RAT'S ASS ABOUT HOMOSEXUALS IN THOSE DAYS, MAINLY BECAUSE THEY WERE IN THE CLOSET. HOMOSEXUALITY WAS CONSIDERED A PERVERSION THEN, AS IT SHOULD BE NOW.
If you are against homosexuality, then quit fighting for the pro-homosexual libertarian movement.
OH, I SHOULD BE A STATIST BECAUSE SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT GOVERNMENT TO LEAVE THEM ALONE HAPPEN TO BE FAGGOTS?
WHEN THE REST OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY COMES OUT FOR THE QUEERS, THEN WHAT?
LOOK, I DON'T THINK GOVERNMENT HAS ANY BUSINESS TELLING ME WHO TO HANG OUT WITH, LOOKING IN MY BEDROOM WINDOW, SEEING HOW MUCH WATER MY TOILET FLUSHES, WHAT KIND OF LIGHT BULBS I USE, WHETHER I USE TOBACCO, WHAT I EAT--NONE OF IT--IT IS NONE OF THEIR DAMNED BUSINESS.
THE LIBERTARIANS I HAVE KNOWN FEEL THE SAME WAY, AND ALL OF THEM ARE AS DISGUSTED BY THE FAGGOTS AS I AM.
BUT IT IS THE DAMNED GOVERNMENT PUSHING FAGGOTRY ON OUR CHILDREN IN THE SCHOOLS, AND YOU ARE OKAY WITH ALL THAT GOVERNMENT, SO YOU MUST BE OKAY WITH THAT, SO YOU MUST BE A HOMOSEXUAL, RIGHT?
HAVE SOME OF YOUR OWN CONVOLUTED 'REASONING'!
There it is again, you just said that you will continue to fight for the homosexual agenda and abortion and against conservatism.
You are lying about the reason the sodomy laws against homosexuality were defeated by the left and homosexuals and libertarians, those were laws the anti-homosexuals liked and created.
I asked you to stop fighting for homosexuality here.
“”If you are against homosexuality, then quit fighting for the pro-homosexual libertarian movement.””
Your answer was no, you will continue, or in your own words.
“”OH, I SHOULD BE A STATIST BECAUSE SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT GOVERNMENT TO LEAVE THEM ALONE HAPPEN TO BE FAGGOTS?””
Joe, you are insane with your bizarre contradictions and claims and lies.
Joe, quit fighting for the “gay rights” movement and the libertarians.
If you are a libertarian, then here is your pro-homosexual agenda.
Libertarians and the homosexual agenda in regards to adoption and the military.
Section 1.3 “Personal Relationships”:
Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the government’s treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws.
Well, the Republicans have the Log Cabin Republicans, and GOProud, so you must be a homosexual.
See how easy it is to be stupid like you?
If you want to know what I think, maybe you should ask me instead of pulling a bunch of stuff out of the warm dark place you keep your head, because you won't find what I think on the dark side of your sphincter.
If you don't think we need less government, then you must be in favor of drones over your back yard, and government telling you what kind of light bulbs you can use, or how much water you can flush, or whether you can fill in the low spot in your back yard, or whether you can own a gun.
You seem awfully fixated about sex, especially homosexuals. You keep wanting to associate me with them, but I think you are projecting your secret self.
I'm not a homosexual, I am disgusted by them, I am disgusted by the influence they are exerting on a government which means the rest of us have to put up with them being "protected", which means government has told schools to write them into school curricula, etc.
If the government wasn't so damned big that it was handing out 'protected class' status to anyone, we wouldn't have to put up with that crap.
If the government wasn't piddling around in who you can hire and fire, in who you are not free to exclude from your business or church group or other association, then we'd be free to tell someone to hit the road and not come back.
Are you getting over your major labeling malfunction enough to see yet that
IF THERE WASN'T SO DAMNED MUCH GOVERNMENT POKING INTO EVERYTHING THE BOY SCOUTS COULD TELL HOMOSEXUALS TO TAKE THEIR OWN HIKE SOMEWHERE ELSE
without the courts being involved and possibly FORCING a private association to associate with people they would normally have nothing to do with.
So, EFF your stinking labels, I BELIEVE IN LESS GOVERNMENT.
You are a libertarian and here is your support for the homosexual agenda, and the Log Cabin Republicans and GOP Proud agree with your libertarian position on homosexuality, I don’t know if they embrace the libertarian position of zero limits on partial birth abortions.
Read what is below, that is the libertarian position supporting homosexuals and their agenda.
Libertarians and the homosexual agenda in regards to adoption and the military.
Section 1.3 “Personal Relationships”:
Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the government’s treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws.
All I can say is that if you were standing within arm’s reach of me you would have stopped telling your lies long ago. Bye, asshole.
Because that is what I am for, Government out of my business, my toilet tank, my light sockets, my kid's lunch tray at school, my back yard, my bedroom, my house, and off my land.
I do not support homosexuality nor their crap they want to call marriage because it isn't.
I have been repeatedly slandered here as supposedly doing so because I think government should stay out of private affairs, period, especially including, but not by any means limited to the list of things above. And don't tell me "Republican" because they're the ones who got into the light sockets and passed the crap that has grown into drones overhead. They're purt'near as statist as the Communists/Democrats.
So what party would you recommend for the people who are sick of government intrusion? And what could be more Conservative than wanting government limited to its Constitutional role?
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