Rand Paul: American's wont pick crops for $8/hour when they can sit at home and get welfare

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[Jane Long]

Where's the evidence? When AZ passed SB1070 the illegals fled like roaches with the lights turned on. Most went back home. Others fled to CA and other states that weren't enforcing immigration laws. Then, Holder's Dept of Just Us stepped in and put a boot on the throat of AZ. The law WAS working, and it mimicked CURRENT US law!

I'll say it again, slower...

IF....YOU....STOP....THE....INCENTIVES...THEY'LL....LEAVE.

[JohnPDuncan]

I have no interest in being at the DUmp. It’s a cesspit.

[JohnPDuncan]

There’s no real data... just news reports with anecdotes.

[Jane Long]

...if the GOP actually went to speak with them and welcomed them instead of talking about self-deportation.

Right!! Because that worked so well for Karl Rove, right? Ha ha!

Wait....Karl? Is that you?!

[Jane Long]

[AllAmericanGirl44]

So if they are allowed to stay and make that honest $8.00/hr wage with no fear of being rounded up and sent back, are you honestly telling us that those people will suddenly see the wisdom in conservatism? Really? Not sure how far you think that 8.00/hr is going to take a family of 6,8, 10 or more, since they never ever come alone. They will continue to rely on government assistance and gee, who is known to hand out the goodies? oh yea, the lefties!

Every argument you’ve presented is so lame it’s exhausting.

[JohnPDuncan]

There’s no goodies to hand out when the country is bankrupt.

Like i said, some people have a serious lack of faith in being able to sell the conservative message.

I don’t see it as a problem. America has had huge waves of immigration before in the 1800’s and 1900’s and up until now.

As long as they’re working and NOT receiving gov’t assistance they are ripe conservative voters

[AllAmericanGirl44]

I believe you are comparing apples to oranges. When my grandparents arrived in this country in 1918, they did so forge a better life with hard work and the freedoms to do so.
That is not what those coming up from Mexico are seeking, for the most part. Not saying none of them are, but the vast majority are not.

Have you ever worked in a hospital? Spoken to any of the OB nurses? Spent time at the welfare offices? I seriously doubt you have a clear understanding of the level of intent these people arrive here with.

Too tired to write anymore tonight on this subject.
Good luck getting people to see your side, you really don’t have a good solid argument that is convincing.

[KingofZion]

My first job working at McDonalds paid $2.90 an hour. According to the inflation calculator, you’d have to make $9.03 an hour in 2012 to have the same purchasing power. Of course the minimum wage in certain California cities is well over that. But why work when you can get $1800/mo in benefits without lifting a finger?

Rand is right - simple economics dictates that no able-bodied adult will work for $8/hr anymore.

[montag813]

You’re offering to break up their families, put them in concentration camps and send them back home.

Spoken like the Leftist troll you are

JohnPDuncan
Since Dec 22, 2012

[Impy]

I smell something, ozone?

Don’t worry I won’t narc on you but somebody probably will if you continue with this BS. Concentration camps? Really?

[genghis]

lol
that was my first thought too

but isn’t his statement a little obvious (of course not to rats, but every one else)

[JCBreckenridge]

“You can’t have open borders and be a welfare state”

The solution then is not to have a welfare state and the border problem goes away.

Paul is seriously amiss if he believes giving people more documentation will open fewer doors for them to access benefits.

[JCBreckenridge]

Someone who gets it. I love how Rand is being celebrated as the conservative saviour while pushing open amnesty and the welfare state.

[JCBreckenridge]

“How about using E-Verify for all employment positions no matter how trivial?”

Comrade. That’s a nice little business you’ve got there. It would be a shame if something were to happen to it.

I don’t see what could possibly go wrong with getting the federal government to decide whom you should hire and fire, comrade.

[Misterioso]

The solution then is not to have a welfare state and the border problem goes away.

Dang. Why didn't I think of that.

[JCBreckenridge]

The solution is simple.

Deport ‘em if they aren’t here legally. No muss no fuss.

“since they never ever come alone”

Is the problem that “they”, (who is they? Immigrants? Mexicans?) are working and earning money and having and raising children - or is the problem the ones who have come over illegally? Think carefully...

[JCBreckenridge]

I’m clearly a super Genious to have come up with something like that. Rand Paul should hire me as a spokesperson for him...

[9YearLurker]

So you’re pro-amnesty too?

[9YearLurker]

Agriculture doesn’t need cheap immigrant labor more than any other industry. Pay what it costs to attract legal labor, and to offset that higher cost more automation will be introduced into the process, making the jobs less appealing, anyway.