Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg
The only ‘mass deportation’ I see related to this is hispanics deporting GOP POTUS candidates for calling those who look just like their kids ‘criminals’ for symply being ‘illegal’.
Like they helped deport Romney for 'self deportation'.
As far as the Wise Latinos demanding citizenship for those here legally (once illegallY) but barred from pathway to voting, if the Wise Latinos on future courts want that they already got an excuse to do what you suggest:
Obama’s Dreamer program that lets them stay here. All the excuse they need.
I think you copied my list. :)
The only reason I’m still a nominal Republican is that the democrats are marginally more repellent.
Good point.
If taxpayers are forced to invest all that money educating children who are trafficked illegally to here to the US by adults (who are criminals), and those kids actually stay in the school and succeed then its a impossible case to label them ‘criminals’.
Any reform bill should make it a felony for adults to traffic children here illegally, there ya go. Why the hell didnt Reagan do that?
But you don't beat the rape victims for fornication as they do in Iran, That is political suicide.
I agree. And we reinforce group identity thru such programs as affirmative action and minority business set asides. There are benefits to being classified as a minority by the USG. Forget the fact that by 2019 half of the children 18 and under will be minorities and by 2042 half of the country will be.
A lot of FReepers and others have a fantasy in mind that would equate to justice, but there’s nobody to ever enforce that so it will never happen. But the fantasy takes on a life of its own...never mind there’s nobody in charge to make it happen.
A good example is a post advocating that “Obama be arrested and put in jail” right out of the WH.
Oh yeah? Who’s gonna do THAT??
Another is massive deportation. Who’s gonna do THAT??
You didn’t say whether you thought Perry should’ve been destroyed, just that Romney did that over the issue of illegal immigration but went on to lose.
I went through the “destroy Perry” wars. I have the scars to prove it. Let me once more put forward this truth: The Texas legislature passed the bill, overwhelmingly with overwhelmingly veto-proof margins, to provide in-state tuition rates to the children who were brought here by adults, if they met certain listed requirements. Perry thought that was reasonable since they HAD to be educated in our schools by federal law, anyways, through high school.
HOWEVER.
Perry’s actual position on illegal immigration is that the feds are refusing to secure the border and that the border must be secured, period, period, PERIOD, before he will entertain talk about what to do next.
YOu will note, this push for “reform” pays lip service to that, but is pushing all sorts of final solutions in the same breath as mentioning border security.
Rick Perry has the position that you don’t even talk about any of that now. You just focus on securing the border. Until it is secured. I submit to you that is NOVEL. And I submit he has so much to offer and has been sufficiently mischaracterized on illegal immigration, that he did not deserve to be destroyed.
So Mr RomneyCare was right to destroy Rick Perry over immigration? What about RomneyCare/Obamacare as a worthy issue to destroy somebody over???
This morning Gov. Perry was on with Beck. I missed most of it but heard Perry’s response about Texas having its own gold that it has so far not been allowed to see and inventory, just as others have not been allowed to. Beck said, but Governor, you (TX) might not have the final say as to whether you get access to inventory your state’s gold...what then?
Perry chuckled. He chuckled for some time, There was an ironic, hard-edge to his laugh. Finally he drawled, “Since it’s OUR gold, we won’t face a situation where others have the say over it”. Or something like that. I’ve paraphrased.
I love Rick Perry. I understand “TEXAN”.
Is he perfect? Nobody is. What are we having to face right now about Rand Paul. And I submit to you that Rand is so far to the left of Perry on illegal immigration, it isn’t even funny. In this ridiculous speech, Rand even talks about a “bipartisan” Congress running his immigration plan.
Bipartisan Congress???
Yep,
Romney SURE helped Dems get Hispanics to vote last year, to deport him, that is why the GOP is terrified now climbing all over themselves to give illegals, err Dreamers, the vote. Romney was the ‘tough on illegals’ guy’
Good old Romney, what a f,... loser.
I believe the GOP needs to make it plain they are PRO Legal immigration.
Too many times, the Democrats and their media lackeys portray the GOP as being against ALL immigration, legal or not, and they get away with it.
HA-HA,
We just need one judge to declare him ‘ineligible’ , just one.
Then he is gone. No fuss no muss. Problem solved. So easy.
Why didnt it work?
I file ‘massive deportation’ with ‘they (illegals) will vote GOP’ if we just legalize them.
Yes, and why illegal immigration hurts legal immigrants.
Without that the GOP has no chance.
You argue like a lib, long on emotion, short on facts. The immigration issue is not why Hispanics vote Dem. It is in their economic interest to have Big Government. And the sad reality is that the US is not immune to the impact of multiculturalism and diversity.
We are descending into tribal politics. Non-Hispanic whites voted overall 59% for Romney and it spanned all age groups and gender with Romney getting a majority of these groups. Obama received 95% of the black vote, 73% of the Asian vote, and 71% of the Hispanic vote. Obama won because the percentage of non-Hispanic whites has declined to 66% of the vote compared to 89% in 1970. It is just a function of math.
And non-Hispanics whites will continue to decline as a percentage of our population due to our legal immigration policies and minority birth rates.
Obama’s Dreamer program that lets them stay here. All the excuse they need.
Obama's Dreamer Program should be an impeachable offense, but that aside, it was a calculated political move before the election. It was all about the children and not only children but those going to college or being allowed to enter the military. Why not offer such a program for all such children not just those attending college or entering the military? The Dems know how to tug at the heart strings of the uninformed and dumb voters.
It is already illegal.
kabar, I should’ve pinged you to my post #65. I use a premise in there that I was debunking, that came from your post, but forgot to put your name on mine to sickoflibs.
I will agree to disagree with you about Rick Perry.
The problem was the Romney was not tough enough on illegal immigration.
No side seems to have cornered the market on these fantasy notions.
this is exactly what I posted a few times on this thread.
they vote Dem, they will continue to, I even posted a link here proving this, you are agreeing with me here.
However calling those Hispanics who were trafficked here illegally as children ‘criminals’ for being ‘illegal’, oh and they all happen to be Hispanics,...
Is a great way to make sure they go out and vote. And they did vote. They didnt vote in 2010 but that talk sure got them out in 2012
Reps should support legal immigration but less of it. We don’t need 1.2 million legal immigrants a year, most of whom are poor and uneducated. 25% of adult legal immigrants lack even a high school degree. Do we really need hundreds of thousands of high school dropouts each year?
We will agree to disagree.
Still beating up those straw men? Or just repeating my arguments because I beat you?
Ping
Imagine the millions more family members that immediately become eligible to immigrate here after you reward those here illegally with citizenship.
Imagine that within 20 years that 43% of them are on welfare as the Numbers USA research suggests and the explosion in taxes to cover the expense.
Imagine that those votes you and the rest of the idiot republicans are chase don’t materialize and instead go to democrats.
Imagine that instead of pandering, you were as forceful in demanding that immigration laws be followed and you were demanding that US citizens be protected from drone attack.
Imagine that instead of rushing to create a permanent underclass of unskilled and uneducated thrid world immigrants you actually fought for job and educational opportunity for the citizens of your own country.
No Amnesty or No Vote!
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