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Why amnesty for illegal aliens MUST be stopped
Conservative Daily News ^ | Mar. 16, 2013 | Zbigniew Mazurak

Posted on 03/17/2013 2:47:35 PM PDT by AuntB

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To: Logical me

“I’m getting real tired of these so called idiots that did not understand Rubio’s plan. Got a better one????”

Yep, I got a better one.

- Illegals here can NEVER attain citizenship. NEVER.
- Illegals here _can_ remain as “permanent alien workers” if they have clean legal records (other than the fact that they entered the country illegally).
- Illegals here who are permanent alien workers can qualify Social Security _IF_ they meet the same eligibility requirements as citizens.
- Permanent alien workers (as non-citizens will NEVER be allowed to register and vote).
MOST IMPORTANTLY:
- Permanent alien workers have NO RIGHT to “chain migration” of relatives. Only legal immigrants (entered USA legally from the outset) will have that opportunity (I would prefer it be abolished for legal immigrants as well).

How’s that?


21 posted on 03/17/2013 4:41:53 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: yoe
A simple solution. A person who came here illegally i.e.,not through the normal channels legally and is allowed to stay in the USA...May Not Ever Vote In A National Election...

*And* may never get a nickel in Federal $$$ for *any* reason.No Medicaid,SSDI,Social Security,food stamps,Section 8 housing,public housing....NOTHING.

22 posted on 03/17/2013 4:43:02 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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To: Road Glide
Send the ILLEGALS home.
We don't want them. We don't need them., including the one in the Oval Office.
If they won't leave on their own, bury them!
23 posted on 03/17/2013 4:55:15 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: AuntB
Blanket Amnesty to gain the Votes for Liberals to another massive bunch of law-breakers is ALWAYS the goal. The ludicrous USSC Ruling that allowed baby-dropping to create U.S. Citizens for Foreign Nationals who could ILLEGALLY gain entrance to the USA, has burdened U.S.Taxpayers with Billions of dollars of support, and led to "allowing families to be Re-united" as a rallying cry.

We CANNOT condone law-breaking, and then allow ALL the Benefits of Citizenship to those criminals.

Lock 'n Load, Amerika, the time is coming when this wealth-redistribution cannot be sustained, and they will come to TAKE what you have, to re-distribute to those who are parasitic to the core.

24 posted on 03/17/2013 4:56:18 PM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: Road Glide

I like it, but it creates a potentially dangerous class of disaffected residents. See “Rome, The Fall of” and several other similar situation through out history.

The really, really need to be “encouraged” to self-deport and our borders need to be secured. Hell, they need to be fortified.


25 posted on 03/17/2013 5:00:23 PM PDT by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: AuntB

Agree.

I don’t understand why the pubbies are so ready to commit suicide.


26 posted on 03/17/2013 5:01:32 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: Logical me

The problem with the rubio plan is that the laws are already on the books—including the law passed by Reagan in 1986.

The new proposed law will just add another layer to the old law.

What happened with the old law was that one provision of the law, border enforcement was not implemented. The other side of the law amnesty was enforced.

The same thing will happen here. Only in spades. Once the law is passed it will no longer be possible to deport anyone the obama administration doesn’t want to deport which will be no one but murderers. And the rules to get people naturalized citizenship will be frog marched or ignored and illegals will be made legals in mass for the 2016 elections—so as to push the dems into a majority in states like texas arizona florida and others.

Try to understand, the law means nothing to the dems.


27 posted on 03/17/2013 5:07:17 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: lone star annie

I knew we’d go down someday. If not from pure liberalism then from massive illegal immigration. I had hoped that I’d been dead and gone before it happened. That’s not to say God might have other ideas for me tonight, tomorrow or whenever but that aside I imagine I’ll still be here when the end of America comes. If we retain or even gain more seats in Congress there is some hope we might be able to reverse the slide down the toilet. If we don’t then only hope is to win The White House in 2016. If Christie or Jeb Bush is our candidate then it’s lost already. Even if either of these two RINOS aren’t the candidate and we still lose in 2016 then it is well and truly over for America.


28 posted on 03/17/2013 5:08:08 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: AuntB
But why would a Republican Party that is not suicidally-minded support this?

Because the Republican Party is owned by the same Globalist Banksters that own the Democrat Party. The Republican Party is a diversion, a trap, a blind alley where conservatives and other patriotic Americans waste their time, money, and political energies so they can't impede the creation of the Bankster's One World Communist Dictatorship. That is, Communism for you and me and the life of God-Kings for Banksters.

29 posted on 03/17/2013 5:09:17 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto
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To: Oatka

You have grasped the essence of why SS is going or is broke. Many people who have never put anything into the the system get to take from those who have ‘contributed’. Politicians haven’t made this an issue and won’t because they know SS is a big scam that has been going on for years. This scam is not just a problem of Mexicans because there are SE immigrants,and European immigrants, and from you call-it immigrants, legal and illegal, milking the free and easy tax money coffers. The politicians blow their political backroom smoke to hide the real source/cause of the a broke SS system.


30 posted on 03/17/2013 5:26:40 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: ckilmer
What happened with the old law was that one provision of the law, border enforcement was not implemented. The other side of the law amnesty was enforced.

At bottom, the problem was that illegal entry was identified as a misdemeanor -- therefore, an unserious crime hardly worth enforcing.

In order to ensure enforcement, illegal entry needs to be a felony -- with a stiff penalty paid prior to automatic deportation.

31 posted on 03/17/2013 5:37:03 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..
Ping!

Click the keyword Aliens to see more illegal alien, border security, and other related articles.


32 posted on 03/17/2013 5:44:23 PM PDT by HiJinx (The New Year is here; to all Men Good Cheer. (Last one out, turn out the lights.))
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To: AuntB; HiJinx; Tennessee Nana; kabar; wardaddy; Pelham; Liz
RE :”You can do whatever you want to do, but everyone of those 11 million people will be voting Democratic,” he said. “It is just the way it works.”

I don't see how they vote Republican, at all.
McCain and Rub try to hint on network TV that illegals will vote Republican without saying it explicitly because they know its a joke.

What they really mean is that the GOP must do ANYTHING it takes to get Hispanic votes. anything!

They need to ask, McCain, Rub, Ryan, .....how many votes amnesty will get the GOP and how.

33 posted on 03/17/2013 6:29:33 PM PDT by sickoflibs (O's sequester Apocalypse tour just proved why we need the 2nd amendment more than ever NOW!)
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To: AuntB

What if we demanded E-verify to do business?

Not many companies use it, they might start if they get enough requests.

I was checking out the e-verify database on NumbersUSA. Not a single landscape company or home improvement contractor in my area.

Anyone else have experience with this?

My trash hauler does so I am sticking with them.

We need to be more vocal about this.


34 posted on 03/17/2013 6:30:52 PM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: AuntB

“Immigration reform is a ‘suicide mission’ for GOP.”

This being the case, the American Republic is irreversibly bound for the dustbin of history. A sovereign nation unwilling or unable to control its borders will die.


35 posted on 03/17/2013 6:39:57 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: Logical me

This is really misleading. Did any of you really listen to what Rubio’s plan was? It was not amnesty but a way to confront the problem with after many years, fines, etc, the illegal would go to the back of the line to apply for citizenship. I’m getting real tired of these so called idiots that did not understand Rubio’s plan. Got a better one????


Any “plan” that does not deport all the Illegal Aliens is AMNESTY.

Got It?

Rubio’s plan calls for more GOVERNMENT to enforce laws that they cannot already enforce on the current system. It would be a lot cheaper to round up all the Illegal Aliens and deport them...instead of the government trying to figure out which illegal got in line at what time, and what illegal alien has paid his “fine”...yada yada yada

Heck the government has 100s of thousands of its own employees who don’t even file their income taxes....and you expect them to keep up with Illegal Aliens and who paid their “fine”?

Marco Rubio is a Big Government Liberal whose Amnesty plan will bankrupt this country, and do permanent harm to the Conservative movement.


36 posted on 03/17/2013 6:40:29 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: Logical me

“This is really misleading. Did any of you really listen to what Rubio’s plan was? It was not amnesty but a way to confront the problem with after many years, fines, etc, the illegal would go to the back of the line to apply for citizenship. I’m getting real tired of these so called idiots that did not understand Rubio’s plan.”

It was not AMNESTY???? Is that you McCain??? BWAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!

“Got a better one???? “”

Yes. Enforce the law! Whatever happens, there should be NO pathway to citizenship!


37 posted on 03/17/2013 7:30:42 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto
Because the Republican Party is owned by the same Globalist Banksters that own the Democrat Party. The Republican Party is a diversion, a trap, a blind alley where conservatives and other patriotic Americans waste their time, money, and political energies so they can't impede the creation of the Bankster's One World Communist Dictatorship. That is, Communism for you and me and the life of God-Kings for Banksters.

Without a doubt.

38 posted on 03/17/2013 7:48:28 PM PDT by Digger
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To: HiJinx

Thanks for the ping.


39 posted on 03/17/2013 9:49:06 PM PDT by GOPJ (DHS HAS secured: 1.6 BILLION bullets - 2.700 tanks and 35,000 drones ...to use on American soil...)
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To: AuntB
WRITE TO OUR FRIENDS AND NOT OUR FRIENDS. TRY TO CHANGE THE MINDs OF THE FLIP FLOPPERS TO THE DARK SIDE. CPAC also shutdown any opposition to amnesty. Its basically us against the left right media and everyone else. Not our friends Rubio 317 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510 (202) 224-3041 Web Form: www.rubio.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/contact McCain 241 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510 (202) 224-2235 Web Form: www.mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contact... Graham 290 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510 (202) 224-5972 Web Form: www.lgraham.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contac... Flake B85 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510 (202) 224-4521 Web Form: www.flake.senate.gov/contact.cfm John Boehner 1011 Longworth H.O.B. Washington, DC  20515 (202) 225-6205 (202) 225-0704 fax Rep. Bob Goodlatte 2309 Rayburn HOB 
 Washington, D.C. 20515 
 Phone: (202) 225-5431
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 Washington, DC 20515 
(202) 225-6565
(202) 225-5547 fax Our Friends Grassley 135 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510 (202) 224-3744 Web Form: www.grassley.senate.gov/contact/contact.cfm Vitter 516 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510 (202) 224-4623 Web Form: www.vitter.senate.gov/contact Sessions 326 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510 (202) 224-4124 Web Form: www.sessions.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Const... John Cornyn 517 Hart Senate Office Bldg. Washington, DC 20510 Main: 202-224-2934 Fax: 202-228-2856 Mike Lee 316 Hart Senate Office Building
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 Fax: 202-228-1168 Steve King 2210 Rayburn Office Building Washington, DC 20515 Phone 202 225 4426 fax 202 225 3193ff Trey Gowdy 1404 Longworth HOB
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40 posted on 03/17/2013 11:01:34 PM PDT by jdirt
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