[GeronL]

) but I think it does take on a different connotation when your talking about a completely unstable, dysfunctional economic and political system where people are legitimately poor

Socialists made the mess, why should they get to "clean it up"? which they will never do

[SMCC1]

Didn’t say they should. They need capitalists and don’t seem to have any. fascist to socialist to fascist back to socialist and so on.