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To: Mrs. Don-o
But if you insist that the flesh avails nothing in the case of Christ, then you are insisting that His Incarnated Flesh, His Eucharistic Flesh, His suffering, dying and buried Flesh, His resurrected Flesh, avails nothing. This is completely incoherent.

Not to me...There was nothing special about Jesus' flesh...Jesus became one of us...He was not born with a 'Godly' flesh...That's why Mary was involved...So Jesus could have a weak, fragile, human flesh that was susceptible to pain, suffering and decay...

Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth;

QUICKENETH
ζωοποιέω
zōopoieō
dzo-op-oy-eh'-o
From the same as G2226 and G4160; to (re-) vitalize (literally or figuratively): - make alive, give life, quicken.

the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Yes, Jesus was speaking of himself...And Jesus was speaking of all in the flesh...

Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

It is the Spirit that raises people to heaven...Eating flesh can not possibly do it...And you can not get the Spirit of God to live in you and you in him by eating anyone's flesh...

Joh 6:56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

It may be literal but it is not physical...It's spiritual...And you can't turn physical into spiritual...What goes into your stomach does not transfer into your soul...It's a heart issue...A belief issue...It's a spiritual consumption of the spirit of God...

Under your apparent understanding, anyone who has ever eaten the wafer handed out by a priest is going to heaven...Ain't gonna happen...

98 posted on 03/15/2013 4:41:22 PM PDT by Iscool (uee)
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To: Iscool
"Under your apparent understanding, anyone who has ever eaten the wafer handed out by a priest is going to heaven...Ain't gonna happen... "

No, that isn't so. That's not what I believe, not what I said, and not what the Church teaches. You seem to be ignoring what St. Paul said about "eating and drinking to your own condemnation" and becoming "guilty of the Body and Blood of the Lord" if you receive unworthily.

Why would Paul say "Body and Blood" if it were not the Body and Blood?

102 posted on 03/15/2013 5:13:43 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ( "You can observe a lot just by watchin'. " -- Yogi Berra)
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