[metmom]

Actually, the non Catholic position is the premise that must be proved, as it is the rejection of what the universal Church has held as firm belief since the beginning.

It's only the position that the Catholic church has had from the beginning, not the *universal* church. So it's only rejection of Catholic teaching, not rejection of Scripture or Jesus.

[Jvette]

This is such a small minded and petty post which barely deserves better than to be placed immediately into the circular filing cabinet.

Catholic means universal and “nyah, nyah, nyah” is not a refutation of the facts that the universal Church believed in the true presence of Jesus in the Eucharist from the beginning.