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To: RobbyS
That Romney chose to showcase him instead of a social conservative told me not to expect too much from Romney even if he won.

Please! The convention stage was littered with social cons. Further, without the support of the LDS, Prop 8 would not have passed.

Eastwood asked for time and he got it because he's Eastwood.

Lately I get the sense around here some spend their every waking moment denigrating the conservative credentials of anything or anyone not their own reflection.

As mentioned up thread, this cultural battle was lost and only now are the shockwaves reaching some peoples' horizons. Traditional marriage was not upheld, was not valued by the parents of the last generation or two. If you want to know how it came to this look in the mirror. Look to your left, look to your right. That's how.

35 posted on 03/03/2013 9:10:35 PM PST by newzjunkey (bah)
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To: newzjunkey

“Traditional marriage was not upheld, was not valued by the parents of the last generation or two. If you want to know how it came to this look in the mirror. Look to your left, look to your right. That’s how.”

“Now, since the family and human society at large spring from marriage, these men will on no account allow matrimony to be the subject of the jurisdiction of the Church. Nay, they endeavor to deprive it of all holiness, and so bring it within the contracted sphere of those rights which, having been instituted by man, are ruled and administered by the civil jurisprudence of the community. Wherefore it necessarily follows that they attribute all power over marriage to civil rulers, and allow none whatever to the Church; and, when the Church exercises any such power, they think that she acts either by favor of the civil authority or to its injury. Now is the time, they say, for the heads of the State to vindicate their rights unflinchingly, and to do their best to settle all that relates to marriage according as to them seems good.”

Pope Leo XIII, 1880

He saw it coming 130 years ago, that many would be conditioned to think the state defines marriage, and how the statists would use that.

Freegards


40 posted on 03/03/2013 9:19:01 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: newzjunkey

Well, the battle was not engaged by the Republican Party very strongly. Remember the reaction of the 1992 Convention to Pat Buchanan’s speech? The Republican Party was the pro-abortion party until it was outbid by the Democrats after Roe v. Wade. Even under Reagan, the pro-choice forces in the Party dampened Reagan’s and Judge Clarks’ pro-life iniatives.


41 posted on 03/03/2013 9:21:10 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: newzjunkey

Hard to tell where the LDS stands on these issues, because theologically they don’t mesh very well with the Christian monogamy which serves as the basis of family law in this country. I should say the traditional Christian monogamy, since Luther found the Bible record to be ambivalent on the issue.


48 posted on 03/03/2013 9:29:42 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: newzjunkey

Hard to tell where the LDS stands on these issues, because theologically they don’t mesh very well with the Christian monogamy which serves as the basis of family law in this country. I should say the traditional Christian monogamy, since Luther found the Bible record to be ambivalent on the issue.


49 posted on 03/03/2013 9:29:55 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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