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To: Cringing Negativism Network

From what I am hearing, manufacturing is starting to return to the US. But it’s due to robots, they won’t be bringing jobs back with them. But at least things will be made here and taxes paid.

Lack of jobs, especially good jobs is one of our biggest problems and no one seems to be stepping up to the plate.


52 posted on 02/17/2013 11:17:33 AM PST by desertfreedom765
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To: desertfreedom765

We need tax changes.

Currently our taxes are based on freedom to import manufactured things, and freedom to export jobs.

We have now imported trillions of dollars of manufactured things, and exported millions and millions of American jobs.

I say enough of both. Tax imports, and tax exported goods. Now.

That is just me though. Don’t see much wider support for such movements - so China continues to get stronger and stronger.

We continue to get weaker, and weaker.

And nobody does a thing, about the growing problems.


56 posted on 02/17/2013 11:36:23 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: desertfreedom765; Cringing Negativism Network
"From what I am hearing, manufacturing is starting to return to the US. But it’s due to robots, they won’t be bringing jobs back with them. But at least things will be made here and taxes paid."

I was a custom machinist. Yes, many of the newer small shops are using CNC equipment (mostly not really robotic operations) pushed by the elite folks--equipment that keeps many of those producers in debt. During the late-'90s and early '80s, we were using machines that were made during WWI through WWII.

Many of those ancient machines were sent out of country, to be operated by foreign slaves. To counter the usual false accusations, no. I wasn't union during most of my work in custom parts runs. The truth is that a custom machinist can make parts as fast as more automated setups can--many of which lines have been reverted to more manual work (costs, lack of skills available to such shops, etc.).

Requires more skill than CNC operation, though (which involved some math, tape-writing and still, setups, back in my time there). CNC machining has its own problems (e.g. requiring a real machinist again for setups, backlash, other play, special material problems--i.e., inconsistencies in hardness requiring feed & speed tweaks, etc.).

"Lack of jobs, especially good jobs is one of our biggest problems and no one seems to be stepping up to the plate."

Even in my area in the middle of nowhere, there's a zoning ordinance (which they call a "law") against any and all manufacturing, even on large lots (and also against any automotive repair work--see single garage in town quite a few miles away charging over $100 per hour for repairs often not getting vehicles running--yes, rackets). Many American men are treating their practice in making various useful items with mostly idle equipment as a hobby for now.

Avoid buying anything that you don't really need, and become as self-sufficient as possible (focus on energy, too, if needed for your climate). The more people doing those things, the more peaceful, moral and orderly our future will be. For now, we're being administered, gossiped about and harassed for trivial excuses by too many irresponsible persons (heh--little sarcasm for the politically correct there), who sit on their rear ends, producing not much more than panic, hysteria, extortions and trouble in general.


81 posted on 02/17/2013 5:16:50 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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