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Levin: US preparing for societal collapse by buying up billions of rounds of ammo [AUDIO]
The Daily Caller ^ | 2/16/2013 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 02/17/2013 8:37:50 AM PST by taildragger

On Friday’s night broadcast of his radio show, Mark Levin speculated that the federal government is stockpiling ammunition to ensure the rule of law in the event of a total societal and economic collapse.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: ammo; collapse; guncontrol; levin; secondamendment
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To: Carry_Okie

How much military protection do they have in China or Mexico?

Sounds like you are saying “they didn’t build that”.


21 posted on 02/17/2013 9:03:32 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: factoryrat

let the games begin,


22 posted on 02/17/2013 9:06:08 AM PST by Big Red Badger
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To: taildragger

On the flipside... I wonder how that compares to the amount of ammo in civilian hands?

I’ve seen in the news about how many rounds are used when law enforcement or other government officials shoot. The LAPD just shot a vehicle almost 50 times and slightly injured one of the two people in the vehicle. Many of us are hunters that were raised to drop game in one shot from a distance. A lot of us also served our country. There are a lot of skilled people that would be non-compliant when the government tries to control the people by force. This is exactly why the second amendment exists.


23 posted on 02/17/2013 9:06:27 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: ilovesarah2012

“How can we force companies to bring jobs back here?”

We can’t. But we could start by repealing the 16th Amendment and replace it with a flat or `Fair’ tax. This would be a good place to start. But that is going to prove to be near impossible. Too much POWER at stake.


24 posted on 02/17/2013 9:07:09 AM PST by DaveinOK54 (Freedom is not Free and I'll never quit defending it.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
How much military protection do they have in China or Mexico?

As for China, it's called "the American Navy," and it ain't cheap.

As for Mexico, there is none, but the lack of border inspections, particularly for pests in food and landscape products, functions as a subsidy, and it is substantial.

25 posted on 02/17/2013 9:08:38 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be "protected" by government.)
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To: taildragger

No need for concern.

The guns and ammunition are only a stop gap measure until Obama and Big Sis
can get their robotic killer drones flying over every square inch of America.


26 posted on 02/17/2013 9:10:00 AM PST by Iron Munro (I miss America, don't you?)
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To: DaveinOK54
We can’t. But we could start by repealing the 16th Amendment and replace it with a flat or `Fair’ tax.

Flat would work. An NRST would be the biggest boon to organized crime in history, resulting in an IRS so intrusive it would blow your mind.

27 posted on 02/17/2013 9:10:37 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be "protected" by government.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

There is no way for the government to ‘bring jobs back’. This would require passing a law that forbade any company operating in the USA from conducting business in China. If this occurred, these businessmen would simply shut down their American operations and go all in on China. What would we do then? Ban all travel to China? Ban all banks from transferring any capital to China?

The reason jobs are going to China, is because their labor force is better than ours. What they lack in product production quality, they make up for in sheer size and willingness to work for nothing. Put yourself in the shoes of a business owner. Would you rather work in China, where your profits will be larger, or in the US, where they will be smaller, and you’ll also be demonized as an evil capitalist? It’s bizarre that we attack private industry more than the communist government in Beijing, but that’s the reality.

Now, if you want business to stay here, and not ship jobs overseas, you have to look at it as a cost-benefit analysis. The object of the game is to make the pros of keeping business here greater than the cons. Right now, we’re way off balance. How do we get back to being an industrial and commercial center? Well, the first thing we need to do is start defending private industry. The anti-corporate rhetoric spewed by Zero and his ilk has to be challenged and loudly so. Make the US a welcoming environment where entrepreneurs feel they are encouraged to pursue new innovation and technology. The second is get rid of all the red tape, bureaucracy, and restrictions put down by organizations like the EPA. These groups chase away industry with their regulation. I like Mark Levin’s example of the raisin committee. Why the hell is there a committee for raisins?
We need to lower our corporate tax rate. There is no reason that we should have these extortionately high taxes on businesses. Obamacare is something else that has to go.
Do these things, and business will come back to this country. People want to work in America, but we have to create the conditions of the past. Conditions that were friendly to entrepreneurs. If we can do this, then we will provide a more attractive proposition than China’s pauper-wage legions can.


28 posted on 02/17/2013 9:10:51 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon
There is no way for the government to ‘bring jobs back’.

Ever heard of a tariff?

29 posted on 02/17/2013 9:11:49 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be "protected" by government.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
How can we force companies to bring jobs back here?

Then you'd have to force those on unemployment, food stamps and welfare to get off the dole and start working.

30 posted on 02/17/2013 9:13:31 AM PST by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: Carry_Okie
An NRST would be the biggest boon to organized crime in history

Aye, ya been readin' my post laddy from the last couple of years with da pictures of da Soprano's :-)...

31 posted on 02/17/2013 9:18:46 AM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: ladyjane

EXACTLY.

Exactly. That is the point. We can do that, if we bring back American jobs.

Precisely yes. The problem is we cannot do that until we stop sending American jobs away. People need to live. We either let them work, or our government supports them.

Exactly.

The last election this process tilted the election. We are on the losing end currently, because we have advocated sending American jobs abroad.

While it is understandable absent other considerations, it a fatal flaw when faced with an opponent like China.

China is a huge threat. They are hard-working and dedicated, and their entire system is biased.

We fact a new world now. We are no longer the world’s biggest exporter. China is.

China is also growing. So China is the world’s largest exporter, and is GROWING.

We are now the world’s second largest exporter, are running trillions of dollars in debt, and are shrinking every day.

Wake up people. This is series.

We must bring back US jobs. Big time.

Forget everything we’ve been doing for the last 20 years. It made sense, but now we’ve created a new reality.

There is a new superpower in the world. And we are selling our future to them.

Period.

We need a new plan.


32 posted on 02/17/2013 9:21:18 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Big Red Badger

Indeed.

If there is TOTAL societal and economic collapse there will be no way for the government to control the populace whether they have 1.6 billion bullets or 1.6 trillion.

At the point of collapse the monetary income to the government would effective drop to zero dollars as no one will be paying taxes. How long do they think they can retain command/control of an army when they are no longer paying them or are able to supply them with basic needs?

As they attempt to transfer ammo (or food or whatever) their supply lines will be decimated as the only law of the land will be survival.

If they are buying ammo to try to manage a total societal break down, they are playing a fools game.


33 posted on 02/17/2013 9:21:29 AM PST by Nonsense Unlimited
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To: ilovesarah2012
How can we force companies to bring jobs back here?

Force no, set up a tax and regulatory enviroment that makes them want to come back.

You have a homework assignment, Google the Czech Republic's tax code, and compare, and post your results here.

You will be shocked as to how their code will kick out sorry butts....

34 posted on 02/17/2013 9:22:01 AM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: ilovesarah2012

He just sprinkles that nostrum around randomly. I’m not sure he even reads the thread.


35 posted on 02/17/2013 9:22:22 AM PST by DManA
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“Bring back U.S. jobs now!”

Yeah. One does that by raising taxes on those evil rich people who own the companies that create jobs.

/S/

IMHO


36 posted on 02/17/2013 9:23:49 AM PST by ripley
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To: taildragger

How many years have we been saying we need to overhaul our tax code? Has it happened yet? Will it ever happen? Not in my lifetime. Pipe dream.


37 posted on 02/17/2013 9:27:00 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: taildragger
Aye, ya been readin' my post laddy from the last couple of years with da pictures of da Soprano's :-)...

Naw, I was jawin with (IIRC) CHIEFnegotiator (now deceased) for bloody ever about this almost a decade ago on FR. It got tiring.

An NRST is a wonderful theory, but the size of the markup to support current levels of Federal spending would make it so attractive to avoid paying the tax that the level of intelligence the IRS would need over every human transaction to enforce its collection would be an outrage. A few pennies on the dollar works, but once over 10-15% and substantial numbers of people will cheat. State sales taxes are already almost there, at least in California. Bootleg liquor and cigarettes are already common. About the only commodity one could tax that way and collect it reliably would be energy.

38 posted on 02/17/2013 9:27:39 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be "protected" by government.)
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To: savagesusie
We threw out “Rule of Law” decades ago.

Yet right here on FR the majority of freepers think it's good that the police in California act as judge, jury and executioner and ignore our rule of law and rights our forefathers fought for.

39 posted on 02/17/2013 9:27:51 AM PST by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

“It can only be one of two things or both:

1. Preparing to use force on Americans.

2. Anti 2nd Amendment White House intentionally drying up ammunition supplies.”

I’ll take #1 for $500 Alex.


40 posted on 02/17/2013 9:29:24 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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