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To: mnehring
Never mind the claim that “Mao’s China gave up world revolution for state capitalism” . . . pure ignorance. China is all over Africa and South America trying to spread communism (Monroe Doctrine long dead), and “state capital(ism)” is a fundamental part of communism per the Manifesto (Plank 5 clearly dictates the “(c)entralization of credit in the hands of the state by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly”—so anyone claiming that what China is practicing in terms of economy really deviates from the Manifesto is either ignorant or deluding oneself).

Playing nice with China is why we still have North Korea. Pulling the wool over Nixon’s eyes by making him believe there was some sort of rift between Mao and the USSR was one of the most transparent diversionary tactics by the communist bloc, yet the man fell for it hook, line and sinker. As Sun Tzu’s book The Art Of War clearly states, “All war is based on deception” . . . yet if you read the Manifesto, the tactics are blatantly visible for anyone to see and the efforts at deception were not very elaborate. Furthermore, the worst thing to happen during the Korean War was the firing of General MacArthur—he was following one of the chief precepts of The Art Of War, that being the fact that “(i)f fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight, even though the ruler forbid it” . . . even worse, it was Red China who attacked us, and it made us seem utterly gutless to curtail our retaliation, never mind completely against George Washington’s admonition that “it must be known that we are at all times ready for war” (lest anyone forget Washington’s special designation not merely as a prominent Founding Father but indeed the Father Of Our Country).
20 posted on 02/15/2013 7:23:23 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

You have a serious misunderstanding of the way America works. MacArthur refusing to abide by the rules Truman set up and being fired was a great thing by itself. (not to mention he was probably one of the absolutely worst Generals we ever produced)

But advocating that in order to follow Sun Tsu, Mac should have attacked China despite the orders of the President is lunacy.

You also badly skew George Washington’s intent in the reference to “being ready for war”. There is not the slightest evidence that he meant that to include wars where the USA does not have a national interest.

Washington would have been horrified to imagine the USA as being able to find some national interest in every single war on earth. He likewise would have been horrified at treaties solely designed to do nothing but drag us into wars that have nothing to do with us.

And last, none of the founders viewed the USA as a messianic nation that should try to meddle with and shape the internal look of every other nation on earth, beyond how they interacted with us.


38 posted on 02/15/2013 8:22:57 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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