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To: null and void
I suppose I am doomed to keep asking until you answer this simple question:

I'm still waiting for your answers to mine. " How long are they required to wait? How many man hours do you require to be wasted? How many hours of helicopter and pilot time? First responder standby time? Can you provide a breakdown for us? "

What's the delay?

448 posted on 02/14/2013 6:35:43 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Alaska Wolf
They are required to attempt to arrest and bring to trial a suspect, no matter the crime, no matter how convinced they themselves are of the suspect's guilt.

That you refer to an attempt at a peaceful resolution as wasted speaks volumes.

They didn't try for a peaceful resolution, they never tried for an arrest, their first thought was kill on sight, or even if you don't actually see him shoot anyone in a truck that you think might possibly be him.

It's clear from what I have heard on the tapes with mine own ears, and what I have been told by a FReeper who listened live (and I acknowledge that is a limited picture of the scene) the shooting had stopped by the time the SWAT team showed up and promptly set it ablaze without any attempt at contact, verifying there were no hostages or any other less lethal action.

At that point they knew he was wounded due to the visible blood splatter they observed when they pried open the front door.

No attempt to negotiate, straight to KILL KILL KILL BURN HIM BURN HIM!!!

Not even a count of five to come out with your hands up.

I don't know the lower threshold of time, but it isn't zero. I don't know the upper threshold of time, successful negotiations can take hours or in rare cases days.

They didn't even give him a count of five ultimatum, let alone any negotiation.

Flat out instant application of lethal force.

Judge, jury, executioner and crematorium operator in one handy hair-trigger package.

Maybe having that as the gold standard for police conduct comforts you, but it scares the bejeebers out of me.

456 posted on 02/14/2013 7:21:31 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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