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To: Tau Food

That is not what I said. The people created their states which in turn created the Confederation, and then later created the federation. Prior to Lincoln’s War people regarded themselves as citizens of their state first and foremost. After that war, and the shear brutality of force used against the secessionist states, the nature of the relationship between the federal government and the people was changed. With the sovereignty of the states damaged, the federal leviathan became over the decades more the authority over the states and the people. What we have today in the form of an oppressive national government is a direct result of Lincoln’s destruction of the original federation. It may have taken 150 years and hundreds or so other corrupt leaders to get here, but Obama, the Punk-Ass, is a product of Lincoln’s war upon the Southern states.


310 posted on 03/03/2013 11:24:22 AM PST by Jay Redhawk (Zombies are just intelligent, good looking democrats.)
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To: Jay Redhawk
Jay, the American people have Constitutional bonds with one another. They created the United States Constitution. No state, no county, no city and no town has the right to deprive American citizens of their rights under their United States Constitution.

The people created a amendment process for changing their United States Constitution. There isn't any alternative to that amendment process. If the people's amendment process isn't good enough for some folks, well, that's why we have cemeteries.

The Civil War is over, buddy.

311 posted on 03/03/2013 11:36:35 AM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Jay Redhawk
The people created their states...

No the people didn't create the states. The 13 origional states were created in London either as Royal Charters or as Proprietary Colonies. Subsequent States after the Founding were created by the US Congress in Washington.

In otherwords, people far away drew lines on a map that created all of the states.

313 posted on 03/03/2013 11:49:27 AM PST by Ditto
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