Because one shot, one kill does not work well for them. 40 shots at these two innocent women and one hit.
I guess they need a few billion more bullets.
Posted on 02/11/2013 5:50:34 AM PST by shortstop
Why is the government disarming us at the same time it is arming itself?
Not wanting to sound paranoid, or like a conspiracy theorist, I think it is nonetheless fair to ask: What foe is the federal government arming itself against?
And should the American people be concerned about a federal government that takes away their guns while simultaneously stockpiling hundreds of millions of rounds of ammunition for its own domestic security use?
As the president and Democratic politicians do their best to geld the Second Amendment, which was intended to protect the people against government oppression, the government they lead is building an arsenal of domestic arms that rivals both Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.
Since last spring, the Department of Homeland Security has contracted to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition. That’s enough bullets to shoot everyone in the United States five times.
A nation with a Defense Department as large as ours needs ammunition, clearly, but these 1.6 billion rounds weren’t bought by the military. Very little of it is in calibers that the military uses, and almost all of it is of a type banned for military use by the Geneva Conventions.
These bullets aren’t for foreign battlefields, they are for domestic control.
Here are some of the recent purchases: 450 million rounds of .40 caliber jacketed hollow point – enough to shoot every man, woman and child in the United States, Canada and Mexico – another 200 million rounds of .40 caliber jacketed hollow point; and just last week, a request for bids to purchase 10 million rounds of .40 caliber jacketed hollow point, 10 million rounds of 9mm jacketed hollow point and, finally, 1.9 million rounds of 9mm full metal jacket ammunition.
Of those 671.9 million bullets, only 1.9 million – under international treaty – could be used by our military against a foreign enemy.
That leaves 670 million for us.
And one might justifiably ask what purpose the federal government has in mind for all that ammunition.
Enough ammunition – if you extrapolated from the worst month of the combined Iraq and Afghanistan wars – to sustain the daily heated combat of a raging war for some 25 years.
No government has ever so extensively armed itself against its citizens.
Which, from the perspective of history, should be alarming. No culture or nation, in any continent or time, has long been free of government tyranny. Sometimes it has been tribal warlords, or feudal princes, or chancellors and kings. But it has always been somebody. Even today, it is clear that large portions of the global population live under tyranny.
To presume that an oppressive or tyrannical regime could not rise in the United States is to deny human nature and history. It is ironic that liberals who mock the belief in American exceptionalism steadfastly claim that a totalitarian or dictatorial lust could never grip the heart of an American leader -- even though such evil runs like a river through the whole of human history.
The founding fathers and leaders of both parties through the 1980s warned of an over-powerful government and of the possibility of tyranny. History and heritage teach us that government can become a cancer, and that Hitlers and Stalins and Castros and Maos can spring up at any time among any people.
So why not us?
Why do we automatically presume our government and its operators are benign, and those who warn of oppression are insane?
Yes, we have rule of law. Or at least we have in the past. And, yes, rule of law is designed to restrain the tyrant. The checks and balances of our Constitution, and the liberties of the Bill of Rights, were all intended to keep governments and megalomaniacs on a very short leash.
But rule of law is ignored, rights are restricted, the balances of power within the federal government and between the state and federal governments are all ignored and perverted. The mechanisms of restraint have been stripped from our government.
And now they are buying bullets.
Incomprehensible quantities of bullets.
Bullets that cannot be fired at our enemies. Bullets that can only be fired at us.
And at the same time they are buying these bullets, they are taking away ours. Legislation is afoot to strip some types of rifles from private ownership, and to outlaw the magazines which make modern firearms effective. In the Democrat states, ammunition sales are registered and recorded, gun ownership is harassed and confiscation is discussed.
Even the massive government purchases, by hogging resources and production capacity, serve to disarm citizens, by making civilian ammunition scarce and expensive.
The Second Amendment was put in the Constitution to make sure the people could replace by violent means, if necessary, an oppressive government. It includes and affords many other privileges as well, from hunting to national defense, but it is fundamentally about self-defense – about the ability to fight to protect yourself, your family, your home, your faith and your freedom.
Against all comers, including the government.
And just as it expands in an unprecedented fashion its domestic offensive capability, the government is seeking to strip us of our already-limited defensive capability.
And that makes you wonder why.
Wondering such things doesn’t make you a kook, or an extremist, or some other vilification so quick to fall from Democrat lips.
It makes you a concerned American.
Who grows all the more concerned by the fact our questions go unanswered, and our rights go unprotected.
While it seems like a lot, let’s do some math.
There are about 200,000 DHS employees. Using the same ratio of 70/30 as the military (nonshooters to shooters)that means we probably have 60,000 people who need to practice with firearms.
Lets presume range time of 2 hours a week, and an ammo expenditure of 150 rounds per hour. 2 hours is probably high, but stay with me on this.
So, 60,000x2hoursx52weeksx150rounds gives us a total annual ammo burn of about 936 million rounds. My numbers are probably a bit high, but it makes the 1.5 billion rounds look a bit more reasonable.
“To presume that an oppressive or tyrannical regime could not rise in the United States is to deny human nature and history.”
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To claim that such a regime HAS NOT ALREADY risen in the United States is to ignore reality as obvious as the risen sun...and I was saying the same thing decades ago. By the definition familiar to those who wrote our constitution tyranny was here when I was a fair haired lad and I am soon to see my 69th birthday. Anyone who doubts it need only look up the case of Stanley Yankus for one, there are plenty of others. The constitution has been under attack as long as it has existed.
You may say that to call what we had here fifty years ago tyranny is a great exaggeration, that is a matter of opinion. On the other hand, to speak of tyranny as something that MAY happen at some time in the future is absurd, anyone who does not believe we have tyranny NOW in this USA simply does not believe there exists such a thing as tyranny. You might as well sit under the shade of an elephant while denying that elephants exist.
For Iraq & Afghanistan, the US fired an estimated 250,000 for every insurgent killed. These are trained military.
Based on that if DHS were the trained equivalent with 670M rounds they’d be able to take out 2680 people.
Remember there’s 300M plus guns in America owned by approx 88M people. If just 2% get pissed, that’s 1.76M armed people with 3.4 guns each.
You know why Shortstop. Each one has one of our names printed on it!! By the way, my favorite is Ernie Banks. Good glove,... great stick!
Ping!
Because one shot, one kill does not work well for them. 40 shots at these two innocent women and one hit.
I guess they need a few billion more bullets.
We practice with cheap ammo, the government can afford the good stuff.
50+ rounds, no fatalities.
Just sayin'...
And they’re crummy shots.
Either that or they know that TEOTWAWKI is coming and there won’t be any more ammo or brass manufactured, so they need to get it while the getting is good. If they start ordering propellent, loose bullets, primers, and reloading stations and dies, you know it is about to hit the fan!
Their official name is the NATional Civilian Community Corps, The NATCCC (or the NATCs)...
And from the multiple rounds that hit trees and nearby residences (one man awoke to find five bulletholes in his entryway) a large volume of fire missed the truck entirely.
Makes one recall the Empire State building shooting where they shot the suspect nine times and in the process wounded nine bystanders. They’re damn lucky this happened 5AM when few people were up and about.
Oh, they’re just doing a little hoarding... Well, what else on earth could it possibly be??? (/sourchasm)
Your estimate of armed federal agents in civilian agencies is somewhat low.
The Government released their last offical estimate of armed agent numbers in 2008. It was higher than you expected. An unoffical estimate for 2012 gives 200,000-220,000 armed agents in over 30 different civilian agencies.
The ratio of authorized shooters in the FBI and Secret Service runs from 30% to 45% of the staff. Other departments have generally lower percentages of shooters.
Shooters do not get 2 hours per week of range time in most departments. That is a problem. Only a fraction of shooters maintain current qualification. The ones who do maintain proficiency use up about 250 rounds per quarter in practice sessions.
These kinds of rounds are not for practice. They are +p critical defense frangibles. They are for the express purpose of killing people.
Personally I hope they are practicing with them because in the event of conflict they will have developed such a flinch that everytime the dimwits fire off a round their eyes will close. Suits me.
***WHY DO THEY NEED SO MANY BULLETS?***
Because in the hands of a CITIZEN a semi-auto AR-15 are designed to kill as many people as possible in a short time! So they have to be banned!
In the hands of the GOVERNMENT, an full auto M-16 is designed to expend 250,000 rounds for each kill.
Sarc/off (for those who don’t see the sarcasm in this post)
Durn it! Beat me to it! And I’ve been saving this info for just the right time, and you beat me to it!
Why are none of those ‘officers’ in jail, waiting for trial on charges of assault with a deadly weapon?
That still doesn’t explain the need for more expensive hollow point for practice when FMJ would suffice.
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Some animals...
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