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To: bluecat6
I can play this game.

Can you raise a horse on 3 acres? Well, according to Virginia:

In Virginia, two to three acres of well-managed pasture should provide adequate grazing and exercise for a mature horse. However, with careful, sustainable pasture management a horse may be adequately kept on less acreage. Regardless of acreage, both the large equine business and the small hobbyist will benefit from sustainable grazing management, which is critical to a healthy sod that benefits the horse, the owner, and the environment.

Could he ride the horse on 3 acres? Well, he didn't -- from the article:

Neighbor Judy Petro said she occasionally saw Jesse riding with his mother, Scarlett, as the pair cut through the Petros' property to reach a horse trail in the neighborhood.

"They rode horses, and we gave her permission to ride through our land to get to the trail that the horses go on.

Hmm. There's a neighbor who actually OBSERVED the mother and Jesse riding horses. So what was the whole point of your post trying to prove that he didn't ride horses?

I mean, inference is fun, but it is generally trumped by eyewitness testimony. He lived with his mother, they had a horse, he rode the horse in the neighborhood, and they had an agreement with the neighbor to get to the HORSE PATH. BTW, did you search google maps to see if there was a horse path near that property?

Wow, what do you know. There IS. And Google actually shows horse paddocks. And horse rails for jumping. I think I even see an actual horse. So, yes, inference and speculation is all fun, but there's actual PICTURES that refute your inferences.

Now, about your inference that Neil Heslin had no relationship to Jesse. Well, there is a problem with that one as well, starting with the existence of actual PICTURES of Neil with Jesse:

Of course, that doesn't mean they are related or anything. There's a Neil that lives in Bristol, who sounds like about the right age. That's a short drive from Sandy Hook.

Now, you claim that "father and a son have different last names? This in and of itself is very non-traditional."

But it isn't. That is a quite common thing, when the father gets his girlfriend pregnant, and she doesn't want to marry him. I know three young girls who have kids with their last names, not the father's last names.

But is that what happened here? You claim "there is no known legitimate connection between Heslin and Jesse Lewis."

But there is. By news reports, we know Scarlett is a single mom, Heslin is the father, and they aren't married. Sandy Hook Victims: Jesse Lewis:

'I don’t have much family so it’s kind of a quiet time for me he made Christmas happy for me and joyful and I said to him “Jess, we'll make it as best we can” and the next day the tragedy happened, it occurred and I thought “Boy was he wrong about that,”’ Mr Heslin said on CNN.
...
Ms Lewis, who did not live with Mr Heslin, had planned to leave work early on Friday so that she could go to school to make gingerbread houses with her youngest son, who was excitedly awaiting the Christmas tradition.

So, nope, not some bizarre thing; sadly typical in our hook-up culture, it's nice that the father at least seems to have stayed in touch and involved in the kid's life. Your implied argument that Heslin wasn't related to Jesse is absurd. You should join the other poster in the crop-circle maze.

But what about that strange "Wild Rose Farm" business? Let's ignore for the moment that a report could easily write "Wild Rose Farm" when they meant to write "WildRoseFarm".

See, there actually IS, or at least was recently, a "www.wildrosefarm.net". You said: "www.wildrosefarm.net. So lets go see where Jesse grew up and enter that website into our browser. Nothing. You do not get a 404...but you are told the there is no webpage configured for that URL."

Fair enough. But there was, which you can find if you just poke a little more into that whole "who owns the website" thing. It could be that because of the tragedy, she took down the web site. Anyway, here's a picture of what used to be hosted at "www.wildrosefarm.net":

It isn't odd for web sites to go off-grid. Even sites referenced by books.

So you say "So now we have an address which is useful because ‘Wild Rose Farm’ is nowhere to be found on in Connecticut."

But you can find it on the net, if you search Wild Rose Farm Sandy Hook, Ct. OK, not directly, but you immediately get THIS reference:

:

Wild Rose Farm Old English Mastiffs

http://wildrosefarm.net

Located in Sandy Hook, CT of Fairfield County.

Thank you for your interest in Wild Rose Farm Old English Mastiffs. Wild Rose Farm Old English Mastiffs is a breeder of Mastiffs in Sandy Hook, CT. Sandy Hook is located in Fairfield County. Please contact this breeder using the Inquiry form on the right to learn about pricing, colors, shipping, health guarantees, availability and more!

See, there's that web address again. And apparently the horse farm is a dog breeding kennel. But it's called "Wild Rose Farm", and it is in Sandy Hook. So no real mystery, unless you really believe that the web is the be-all and end-all of existence.

So in summary:


1. Clear connection between Heslin and Lewis.
2. ‘Wild Rose Farm’ exists, looks like it had a horse, and also did dog breeding.
3. Still a connection between Heslin and Lewis.
4. Who cares who Scarlett was married to 12 years ago?
5. How is it relevant that she might have married some guy she later divorced a year after he got in admnistrative trouble as a broker? 

But of course. Lewis was once married to a guy who before their marriage did something wrong while dealing stocks on Nasdaq. Because of that, 13 years later a mysterious group, probably satan worshippers associated with the burger-miester meister-burger, got tired of banning toys, and decided to get back at random people who were associated with stock trading, by targeting the non-related children of ex-wives of two-bit suspended brokers.

Independently, the anti-gun folks, seizing an opportunity, hired some actor related to John Goodman to pretend to be the father of one of the kids. Using their time machine, they went back, hired the guy, had him pose with the still-living child, so later when the kid turned up dead, he could come out, claim to be the father, the mother of course would go along with this because don't all mothers acknowledge random men pretending to be their kid's father.

Did you see the triangle with all the missing ships? Well, if you go back and look at the google images of Lewis's Wild Rose Farm, you'll see the missing boats have mysteriously appeared in her next-door-neighbor's yard. Coincidence? I don't think so.

158 posted on 02/06/2013 10:51:08 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Wow. Just wow.


163 posted on 02/06/2013 11:51:17 PM PST by ExxonPatrolUs (The Ameritopian Motto: Gov The Sheeple, Buy The Sheeple, Bore The Sheeple)
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To: CharlesWayneCT; Uncle Chip

Charles - I find the response the Wild Rose Farm questions reasonable. 3 1/2 acres is small for thoroughbreds - but maybe not for other less active breeds and access to trails would be needed. Ms. Lewis’s book has been out for some time and the the photo from the defunked web page is clear from the same location as referenced in Goggle maps. This may have been an unnecessary tangent of inspection.

So back to the question of Neil Heslin.

Was he a stepfather as Uncle Chip says? Meaning did he married Scarlett Lewis/Burke and then lived as a family and then they later divorced? Absolutely no account uses the term ‘stepfather’. So what drove the response of a ‘stepfather’.

Or was it as you say a ‘hook up’ situation? No marriage, no formal connection? 37 seems be a little old for this admittedly more common situation but its in the realm of possibility. But there is no legal connection then how is that Neil Heslin gets credibility as ‘the father’ with no inspection by the press.

You gentlemen have provided two completely different answer to the simple question - why do father and son have different last names. Both can not be true.

From what is seen it would appear the later matches. Had Neil Heslin been a legal ‘stepfather’ that is likely how he would have been identified as such and not as ‘father’.


164 posted on 02/07/2013 5:20:34 AM PST by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: CharlesWayneCT; bluecat6
Thanks for solving that mystery. You managed your way through that maze masterfully. It kept me up all night thinking about it.

What mystery will crop up next???

165 posted on 02/07/2013 5:33:50 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Charlie, that is possibly the most eleborate putdown I’ve ever witnessed at FR! Congrats ... the mind remains sharp I see.


170 posted on 02/07/2013 7:54:41 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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