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To: Strategerist; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; BlackElk; EternalVigilance; Dr. Sivana; Clemenza; ...

Trying to explain to someone you are presumably portraying as a Zero voter is going to be a near impossibility. If they cannot vote in their own best interests (which they aren’t), that doesn’t mean the rest of us who do should be sucked down the drain with them.

If there is any shred of reasoning, one could take the approach as such. Say you have 100 people living on a block (all voters). Let’s say 49 of the people live in nice homes on the block, all kept up and maintained. Everyone gainfully employed. Then let’s say 51 of the people live in a rundown apartment building at the end of the block. They’re mostly criminal, perpetual welfare cases. They don’t work, don’t want to work. They are the low or no info voters, ones swayed by politicians who count on demogoguery and race baiting (”They’re gonna put you back in chains !”) and essentially need these folks to remain dumbed down and dependent.

Anyway, come voting day, the 49 voters vote responsibly, but they get outvoted by the 51 voters who do not, the ones who vote for a corrupt status quo. It may be a victory for democracy, but it is not a victory for personal responsibility or moral governance. Where is it written that said 51 have the right to forcefully take from those 49 who work hard, want a responsible and moral society and demand the others do as they will ?

The alternative here is that the 49 choose to just vacate the block and move elsewhere to where they have a majority (in which case, they’d have to go out of state). How is that particularly fair ?

I’ve reached the point where voting should not be a right, but a privilege. Certain things should disqualify you from being a voter. If you are on welfare, taking from those that work, you should not have a vote. You’re going to vote for politicians who are going to keep you on welfare. You’re voting for “free” money. Also, if you work for the government (with the sole exception of those who put their lives on the line in military or police/fire/emergency capacities), you should also not have a vote. You’re voting for your own employment and income at the expense of those who do not.

The premier example of the latter is that the Founding Fathers did not want DC residents having the vote, since those people would presumably be government workers. It’s no surprise that DC and its suburbs have become heavily Democrat and absolutely need the government to keep getting larger. As was stated long ago, once people could discover how to vote themselves free money (and benefits), that is the end of a republic.


28 posted on 01/31/2013 12:48:41 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Well said.


31 posted on 01/31/2013 1:05:34 PM PST by samsmom
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I agree with you.

Changing the way states chose electors is NOTHING new and it is Constitutional. If it works for Maine and Nebraska, I think it would do wonders for the following states:

Virginia
Pennsylvania
Ohio
Michigan
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Florida
California
Illinois
Iowa

Which ever of those states above that have Republican legislatures and governors better get on this, now.


32 posted on 01/31/2013 1:39:41 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Also, if you work for the government (with the sole exception of those who put their lives on the line in military or police/fire/emergency capacities), you should also not have a vote. You’re voting for your own employment and income at the expense of those who do not.

I'll agree with that if we are excused from paying any taxes (Federal/State/some local).

Otherwise you can go pound sand. 'Pod.

68 posted on 02/03/2013 12:31:33 PM PST by sauropod (I will not comply)
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