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To: Jim Noble

“There must be a disloyal political movement. By disloyal, I mean a political movement that renounces the legitimacy of Congress’ acts of pretended legislation and that denies their right to rule.”

Jim, that “political movement” is already a-sproutin’.

Witness the number of sherriffs who have made public pledges to refuse compliance with anti-Constituional laws to seize firearms.

Witness the number of states that have enacted legislation to protect their residents from ObamaCare.

We’re already seeing exactly what you’re describing, if on a nascent level.

I confess that I’m not boned up on The Constitution quite enough to be sure, but doesn’t it proscribe agreements made between the states, apart from Congress?

If so, the red states have to take care how they organize amongst themselves. Open agreements may be prohibited (at least if the red states expect to maintain the argument that they are acting to preserve the Constitution, not subvert it), but other types of cooperation are possible. I’m thinking of a “conference of conservative states” — a get-together by delegates from each state, not for the purpose of forming an explicit agreement between them, but rather to agree on a set of conservative principles and guidlines under which each state (for the time being) will plan a course of action on its own.

By such agreements in principle (as distinguished from agreements of signed papers), the red states can chart a “congruent course” towards the future, so to speak.

The goal is to have the red states as close to a “meeting of the minds and philosophies” as possible, so that when the federal collapse happens, the red states might be in a position to then coalesce and break off on their own.

I’ve used the following analogy before, but it’s worth repeating.

Think of the Titanic disaster. After strking the iceberg, the ship sank bow first, pulling the stern upward and into the air. This continued until the bow dropped so low (and the stern rose so high) that the superstructure could no longer bear the stress, and the ship literally tore itself apart below the water line (I recall Walter Lord in his book “A Night To Remember” writing of a “great noise” that everyone heard — it was only later when the wreckage was actually discovered by Robert Ballard that it was confirmed the ship in fact broke apart).

The bow sank rapidly towards the bottom. The stern settled back, then it, too, slipped under.

But — what if the watertight bulkhead in the stern had been high enough and strong enough so when the split occurred, the stern could float on its own?

This is how the red states must act. They must carefully act together to “build the bulkhead” that will give them buoyancy to survive as the federal government and the blue states that depend upon it founder and dive downward.

We must also realize that the result of such events is that after the collapse the United States will be no more, and that something else will replace it — perhaps two “nations”, perhaps more than two. It may be the only way.

It can be done.
We are seeing the beginnings of that today...


60 posted on 01/27/2013 6:46:23 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: Road Glide

“In the next place, the state governments are, by the very theory of the constitution, essential constituent parts of the general government. They can exist without the latter, but the latter cannot exist without them.” —Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution, 1833


104 posted on 01/28/2013 3:53:06 PM PST by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: Road Glide

Not to offend anyone here, but if the red states break away, may I suggest they do it under God and seek His guidance daily.


151 posted on 01/30/2013 5:24:43 AM PST by bergmeid (I told you so - now pass the ammo.)
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