Posted on 01/25/2013 1:27:54 AM PST by SMGFan
Republicans in Virginia and a handful of other battleground states are pushing for far-reaching changes to the electoral college in an attempt to counter recent success by Democrats.
In the vast majority of states, the presidential candidate who wins receives all of that state’s electoral votes. The proposed changes would instead apportion electoral votes by congressional district, a setup far more favorable to Republicans. Under such a system in Virginia, for instance, President Obama would have claimed four of the state’s 13 electoral votes in the 2012 election, rather than all of them.
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Now they oppose it as in 2012 Romney would have won.
Democrats have supported the idea that states should award their electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote, even if that candidate didn’t win that particular state. They think such a policy would favor Democrats. Democrats are opposed to individual states awarding electoral votes by congressional district because they fear it would help the GOP, because the GOP would still get some electoral votes in blue states.
Democrats favor tinkering with the electoral vote if they think it will help Democrats, and oppose ideas which they think will help Republicans. They do not take any principled stand as such, regarding how to award electoral votes..
dumbest idea ever. This is exactly why they are the Stupid party because they are going to hand over permanent federal control to the Evil party as soon as the Evil party takes over at the state level. We in VIrginia have a similar problem to Texas, getting taken over by illegal Hispanics who do everything from construction of federal government or contractor facilities in Northern VA to drug running in the Shenandoah Valley. They have entire Spanish only neighborhoods in the DC suburbs and make up 1/3 or more of all vendors and shoppers at the flea markets. The Evil party will give them citizenship, then they will vote for the Evil party at the state level.
Would be a disaster. Would guarantee the death of Republicans since Dems know how to stuff ballot boxes and manipulate the numbers.
Would be better if they challenged the gerrymandering system.
It's true but remember that is part of the Stupid party's portfolio in this (and other) states. The Stupid party gerrymanders to get more Congressional districts here and the Evil party will take advantage of that once they take over. The problem is that the Stupid party refuses to cut federal government (and federal power) now, while there is still a chance to do so.
The change to the EC you're talking about would fix a big part of the problem.
Sorry but you are completely wrong. The vote for Obama in VIrginia was not fraudulent, it was simply a case of 60% or more turnout for blacks and hard core liberals and 50% or less for whites in general. The white voters mostly just didn’t care (they do not read FR, or even spend much time on the internet).
Our entire voting system is fubar and needs to be replaced and a fraud-proof system would not be that hard to devise; it would involve biometrics and p2p networking and the idea that ANYBODY could do his own vote tally and that all tallies should match. It also should involve the idea that a person could have total assurance that his vote did not disappear or get counted for the other guy.
You’re looking at this the wrong way. Vote manufacturing can’t win state houses, that’s the whole point.
No change in the Constitution! Not one line, not one right lost! If we would have had no electoral college we would have had Al Gore as President on 9-11. That would have been horrible.
Sounds nice but I noticed you did not mention anonymity. Do you have a way of anonymizing biometric data? I agree that the voting system here in VIrginia is bad and the rats want to make it worse in their favor (more early voting).
It’s not a change to the EC at all. States are completely free to determine how their electors are chosen. It doesn’t have to ne a winner-take-all proposition.
However, in District-based Electoral counting, the parasitic inner-city tribal masses can't outvote the Congressional Districts.
In nearly all larger states, the Democrat/Progressive/Socialist/Handout Party wins the urban vote, but loses to the Taxpayer-rich suburban and rural vote Districts.
I think the idea of Apportionment restores the Will of The People (ALL the people) and would go a long ways toward slowing the have-not's from raping the have's.
IF we had Voter ID, Apportioned Electoral Votes, and NO VOTING EXCEPT IN PERSON (except for Military voters who are deployed), then the Fraud would be more difficult, for sure.
“It doesn’t have to be a winner-take-all proposition”.
Exactly. In my state of Pa, we are ruled by Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, as everybody is aware. If electoral votes were won by election district here, the votes of those of us in flyover country (aka the ‘T’, aka ‘PAlabama’) would go to the intended candidate. I’m all for it. It would not change the electoral college system at all.. There was massive voter fraud in Philly. EV by district would help override that.
Precisely.
My recommendation to the GOP
1) Fix vote fraud.
2) Run inspiring candidates that don’t put the electorate to sleep by the first commercial.
3) Run candidates who are conservative and are not afraid to espouse our values.
4) Stick to issues that are within the scope of the enumerated powers.
5) Stick any discussion of messing with our constitution and specifically the electoral college up your elitist kiester.
I got an idea...let Republicans nominate Republicans, instead of a bunch of Democrat-lites in Iowa and New Hampshire, with a heapin’ helpin’ bit of the MSM, nominate 3rd rate scrubs who trash Conservatives in the primaries, followed by fellating the Democrat nominee in the fall.
EXACTLY, and I've been thinking this for a while. Senator FineSwine can propose a database to track gun owners (you might as well propose a database to track unicorns for all the good it will do), but we can't do something on a national level to track voting.
It should be based on a finger print or prints, be in a single database, and be accessible by BOTH parties, in a READ ONLY mode. The fingerprint takes the Voter ID off the table, since Democrats can't whine that the poor can't afford a finger print ID. It would allow for same day registration WITH proper Identification, and the vote could be tagged for review so that it's not fraudulent or cast twice.
If a voter attempts to vote twice, it would immediately show up on the system, and should be flagged. The fraudulent voter would be taken into immediate custody, and there need to be HEAVY Federal penalties for voting twice (we could sell that by "admitting" that we cheated just a little bit in a minor election in the past, and want to atone for it - what could the Dems say to that?). That penalty should include permanently losing your right to vote.
There's more, but I'm short on time. This is an idea that is way past due for execution.
If it was fraud, then why didn’t the GOP have lawyers and pollwatchers by the thousands scouring every polling place in America? If this was the most importatant election of our lifetimes, maybe the GOP should’ve acted like it was, instead of lying down and begging to be scratched by their hero and Master Obama.
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