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To: Adder

Can the reason be as simple as they willing grab all they can while they can and damn the consequences? Really? Are they that stupid or is something else going on?


Actually, yes. If the System does collapse, its an open question as to what will replace it. We may assume that a collapse will make people come to their senses. That is just one possibility of many. Another increasingly likely possibility, however, it that it will become a pseudo-Marxist state where all is controlled by everyone’s standard of living declines, but the bottom 40-50% retain a cushion at the expense of everyone else. And, of course, the Elites that prove cooperative will be rewarded and allowed to retain their status in some form. We will still call ourselves the United States and give lip service to “freedom”, but it won’t be a Capitalist Republic—it will be a Marxist oligarchy.

Think its not possible? Take a hard look at Venezuela. Its what happens when people care more about free stuff than freedoms. Many of these Libs that push these policies may be counting on staying in power no matter what.


30 posted on 01/21/2013 7:45:29 AM PST by rbg81
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To: rbg81

But a country like Venezuela has to have some commerce...and they do: selling their oil, a source of ready capital infused into their economy to keep their welfare state schemes afloat.[A country like Greece doesn’t have anything approaching that kind of wealth engine.]

We on the otherhand have decided to bar extraction of our oil, bar the refining of our oil, make conducting business in manufacturing so expensive that we have trouble performing it. [Not to say we do not manufacture, we do but under some onerous and expensive burdens.]
We have spent since the 90’s shedding our wealth creation engines and have opted for wealth churning ones: service type jobs and the like.
And if you are correct, the ones at the top will be left with damn little to “rule” over. All the marxist oligarchies have moved to be more “capitalist”.

I still have a difficult time thinking that so many of the senators who keep pushing this nonsense are simply that clueless. I do not like Harry Reid but I did not think of him as particularly evil, not like I do the Marxist in Charge, Oblahblah. Thats why I am have an issue with some of the positions these folks are supporting.

Thank God I am not just starting out: I’ve had my main run, such as it was...but it pains me to see what is happening to the once proud country that “beat the nips and the krauts” and landed several men on the moon and found cures for diseases like polio.


31 posted on 01/21/2013 8:19:36 AM PST by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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