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1 posted on 01/17/2013 4:27:02 AM PST by Wolfie
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By the time I am ready to retire, I will have to be 90. That will be 75 years of paying into a system I most likely won’t have access to.


2 posted on 01/17/2013 4:29:13 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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Someone has to work longer, harder, more efficiently if there’s money to be had to pay for welfare and Obamaphones...


3 posted on 01/17/2013 4:31:13 AM PST by abb
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The eligibility age for Medicare is 65.

Notable exception - People who are on disability S.S. receive Medicare automatically, two years after they become disabled and that applies to a whole lot of Americans.

4 posted on 01/17/2013 4:39:00 AM PST by Graybeard58
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Similar to Ryan plan.

I am not defending any plan that does not recognize that SS and medicare are rcreating deficits now, they are spending borrowed money NOW.
Tell you what, cut those progams now and save the trust fund IOUs for us.

The 55 age threshold is not accidental, its the GOP base voter. Its the one group Romney won solidly.


5 posted on 01/17/2013 4:39:58 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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And what is the retirement age in France? 50? or Greece? 45? Are young Americans going to sit still for a 70 years old retirement age?


7 posted on 01/17/2013 4:43:56 AM PST by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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Raising the retirement age is a demographic requirement; we have simply been putting it off out of political cowardice. They are phasing in the shift from age 65 to age 67 (starting in 2000 and ending in 2027), and they should simply continue that increase to age 70 at a slightly higher rate, adding two months to the normal retirement age every year after 2027 until the age reaches 70 or more likely 72. Even if life expectancy levels off, as is likely at best under ObamaCare, a higher retirement age is needed to have any social security at all when those who are 40 or younger reach that age.

Note: This is not a proposal to cut benefits for those currently retired, nor does it move the goal line for those who are in the last stages of preparing for retirement. It simply makes social security sustainable by delaying retirement benefits for those who are more than 14 years from eligibility at this time, when we can adjust our long-term plans well in advance. The alternative is even worse for those who plan to depend on social security.

10 posted on 01/17/2013 4:48:31 AM PST by Pollster1
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I have no problem with this idea. Also, 20 and out retirements in the (non-military government needs an adjustment. These people are gone just when they are in their prime. Often they government hires them back as contractors or advisers and big bucks.


11 posted on 01/17/2013 4:50:42 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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I have no problem with this idea. Also, 20 and out retirements in the (non-military government needs an adjustment. These people are gone just when they are in their prime. Often they government hires them back as contractors or advisers and big bucks.


12 posted on 01/17/2013 4:50:51 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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That means the age of getting a pension and/or social security.
Bull$shit. White males over 55 are the first to be laid off, and then can’t get jobs,


13 posted on 01/17/2013 4:51:29 AM PST by I want the USA back
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Great I will be hacking on JAVA, C and C++ code until I am 70. Great.


15 posted on 01/17/2013 4:56:33 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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A bunch of liberal CEO’s that benefit from government... that’s my guess. I assume GE in on board... and every other ‘business’ that skims their full ‘share’ of government handouts...

Where’s the list of companies?

Roundtable?

Yeah, right. More like ‘under the table’...


16 posted on 01/17/2013 4:56:44 AM PST by GOPJ ( Gang members breaking down YOUR door-daughter&wife screaming -Dems took YOUR gun. Shots fired.)
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CEO’s shouldn’t care about government programs, per se.

They should make it clear that government mandated costs/taxes tied to employees are always borne by the employees. If they become too high they will fire employees until they become manageable.

If the employee costs are still too high, in combination with other business taxes and regulations to make the desired profit, they’ll close the company or move it someplace where profit is possible.

That’s the only job of business, and the only comments CEO’s should be making.


18 posted on 01/17/2013 4:58:27 AM PST by RFEngineer
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If we were allowed to save for our own retirement, instead of making mandatory contributions to an inefficient government program, we wouldn’t have to wait for the government to tell us when we could retire.


19 posted on 01/17/2013 4:59:55 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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My Dad was a barber and worked until he was 80. He was edged out by Vietnamese women who slowly took over the shop. He loved working! It was very social. Old retired Colonels, Generals, Senators etc went there. In McLean Va. It’s where I learned my politics. From guys that were there.

I have no plans to retire. Nothing to do.


21 posted on 01/17/2013 5:02:24 AM PST by albie
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And, at the same time, ObamaCare will restrict "scarce procedures" to those below 57 years of age because they do not "contribute to the state" adequately.

So, we will have folks, usually veterans, whose knees and shoulders are deteriorating, limping along, having to work for 13 years in an increasingly physical state of deterioration.

Yeah, it makes perfect sense to me...just like "Logan's Run"!

23 posted on 01/17/2013 5:05:32 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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Ah, the genius of the plan! Give amnesty to the illegal aliens, raise the retirement age to 80 and tax ‘em til they drop. Welcome to the age of slavery.


24 posted on 01/17/2013 5:07:16 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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Why do CEO’s care what age I start drawing SS? They care because they tack SS on to their retirement package to make it look bigger. Just another manipulation by the fortune 1000.


30 posted on 01/17/2013 5:19:12 AM PST by vet7279
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How may of these CEO’s are outsourcing?

Throw them off and ignore them.

For those who are left: Why are those who are outsourcing even in the same room?

We must stop destroying America.


35 posted on 01/17/2013 5:26:56 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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Nuts. Those CEOs can start by eliminating their own “golden parachutes.” They drive corporations into the ground, then, escape with intact separation packages worth millions. Everybody else gets thrown into the street with nothing...or work until age 70? Not listening to them.


36 posted on 01/17/2013 5:31:09 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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Seems like a start to me, although I’d go further and simply declare Social Security and Medicare to be means-tested WELFARE PROGRAMS once and for all.

After all, they are already welfare programs, in that they are transferring the earnings of one group of people (the workers, and even worse, their kids and grandchildren) to another group of people - those that have already retired.

Now if Al Gore’s Lockbox was still there, things would be different, and they would be funded retirement programs - but things are what they are. So it’s no different than Food Stamps today, except the only requirement for qualify to have access to my kids’ future earnings is age.


40 posted on 01/17/2013 5:41:29 AM PST by BobL
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