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To: CottShop
I have just read a little bit of your previosu post, with hte links, and will do what I can by sendign thsoe links to those I nkow in NY (and other states to show just how far NTY has sunk under the tyrant ceuomo- I do still think that the time for ‘being heard’ has passed there, and it’s getting close to the time for ‘beign felt’ (meaning cuttign off their funding- It can’t be concidered ‘civil disobedience’ if the people refuse to pay siomeone who refuses to do their job- perhaps the tazes can be simply with-held until NY elects soemone who WILL honor their oath and duty to NY- that way NY’er’s can’t be accused of ‘not payign their taxes’- they will infact be paying them, but holdign that payment to give to an official who actual EARNS it)

Thanks CottShop! We most certainly will revert to acts of civil disobedience if the lawsuit doesn't go anywhere, however; our lawyer believes the bill will be overturned as it's an ex-facto law taking away previously owned property. I'm a veteran and took an oath to defend the Constitution and will do so!

210 posted on 01/16/2013 11:17:13 AM PST by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: rochester_veteran

[[our lawyer believes the bill will be overturned as it’s an ex-facto law taking away previously owned property]]

I hste to always be negative abotu hte issue- bu I lsot a LOT of faith in the justice system when John Roberts betrayed thsi coutnry- lotso fo lawyers were certain that htere was no way any of obamacare could be upheld in the supreme court- they were absoltely certain it woudl be either all struck down, or partially struck down renderign it impotent- I too thought for certain that the supreme court would uphold the consitution and that htere was no way they couidl possibly vote that it waqs legal- I was shot htrough the heart the day of the descision- I am still stuinned to this day- We no logner have a justicce system that will protect us fro ma rogue government- The Traitor H\John Roberts Gave orabama the green light to do whatever the hell he wants to do, whether it’s constitutional or not, and he then turned aroudn and essentially blamed WE the peopel for the loss of our rights because ‘we hired o and can simply ‘vote for someoen else (after al lthe damage has been done and is now paprently irreversible) if ‘we don’t liek the current leaders”

[[We most certainly will revert to acts of civil disobedience if the lawsuit doesn’t go anywhere,]]

It won’t actually be civil disobedience to stop payments to thsoe who refuse to do their job- it will ifnact be an act of responsible leadership and an act of excersiing hte right to hire and fire anyoen you see fit as any responsible boss would do


213 posted on 01/16/2013 11:30:03 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: rochester_veteran

Hey Rochester- just heard megan kelley on fox talkign abotu hte secodn amendment and statign that kkkuomo is doign nothign unconstitutional because ‘The constitution allows regulation of guns’ (I hadn’t realized that was an amendment i nthe constitution)- If thsi is the case, then the lawyer you spoke to I beleive is wrogn abotu havign a strong case (Note, I’m certaionly no lawyer, and am just looking at this through the goggles of what info is available to me- perhaps he knows soemthign I dont)

IF an amendment gives governments the right to regualte guns and ammo, then nothign i nthe cosntitution prevents them from regulating it so severely that it is impossibel to own one- technically, they won’t be ‘banning guns’ nor ‘confiscatign them WITHOUT DUE CAUSE’ (accordign to their warped reasoning that is) ,and so they get to technically say “We didn’t violate the constitution, and are fully within our riughts takign guns from homes where we perceive the guns to be a threat in the hands of unstable owners”

Previously owned property CAN be taken away- Hell, even a couple’s children can be taken away which are far more important and personal than guns

I hope your lawyer knows somethign I don’t, but it’s looking like kkkuomo can’t be touched i nthe court of law because technically he isn’t doing anythign unconstitutional-

There’s a tiem for law, and then there’s a tiem for action (I’m talking non vilolent but effective action liek organized civil disobedience- which actually would be disobedience, but rather woudl properly be called be prudent and responsible business descisions- liek withholdign payment ot the gvoernemt for FAILURE to listen to the people, for abuse of power, abuse of priveilege by declarign emercgencies hwere there ARE NO emergencies just for the sake of ramming bills through without public input or consent=-)

antoehr effective non violent means could be if enough peopel who wanted and can affor,d and those who already own, band togehter and colelctively REFUSE to participate in mandated mental health evaluations, and IF they REFUSED to register their guns as a collective and powerful whole

I’m just afraid that actiosn like or similar to these may be the only choice left IF NY’ers wish to keep thjeir guns AND keep their cosntitutional rights without undue and overly burdensome regulatiosn beign placed on them just for ownign guns-

Years ago the fed gov tried to enact an intrusive and unpopular law, and many states banded together and told the govenrment “Nope- NOT on our watch you don’t” and hte government knew they meant it, and was forced to back down- IF NY’er wish to keep their freedoms and thjeir guns (AND IF they want to throw out assinine laws that haven’t worked but have just made it harder for law abidign citizens to own guns, and IF they wish to do away with ‘gun free zones’ that put EVERYONE at risk and at the mercy of gun totin criminals who IGNORE the gun free zone qwarnings- now woudl be their chance to get thsi ALL doen in one fell swoop- but it wil ltake a massive effort that is far more effective than lawsuits which might only just temporarily halt the bills for a short time- Action By The People will be a lastign and powerful message that we the peopel are fed up with how elitist politicians are running our lives when they were hired to SERVE US-


240 posted on 01/17/2013 9:53:00 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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