[sickoflibs]

RE :”32 posts on this thread and almost all miss the point entirely. You have hit it in the head however. Obama has already won the debt ceiling debate in the public’s eyes. The GOP should now admit that, agree with everything or not, they participated in the accumulation of this massive debt load, agree to an increase just large enough to get us through the fiscal year, and vow never to allow this to happen again. I disagree with CRs though. Pass a budget out of the House and hold firm. Use the Dems own rhetoric against them just as you suggest to force the Senate to finally do its’ job. No more private negotiations. Use legislation to make a public statement for the whole world to see. Get in front of this issue with the public and start playing offense instead of a prevent defense.”

All miss the point except mine LOL

But what you post is exactly what I am getting at. Just like the fantasy last year about the GOP winning so many here live in a completely fantasy that when pubic opinion is against them the Senate and House GOP leaders wont cave.
So we get the delusional Donald Duck votes against weak Bohner when none of them wants to go near his job.

Holding a hostage backfires if everyone knows you will never kill the hostage.

So publicly declaring you wont pass a debt limit until ....(something O wont do), or pass a budgetCR is doomed to fail.

They should have taken the approach that they will pass debt limits and budgets, but not the ones O demands. And say in good conscience they cant for the good of the country.
And warn voters of how bad it will be in O play chicken.

[csmusaret]

GOP should fight a retrograde movement ceding ground for time. Time to prepare the battlefield in the place they will make a stand. That place should be future budget battles not arguing about the past.