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To: Monorprise
The heart-breaking thing is that my three younger siblings refuse to hear any discussion about their politics at all. I'm forbidden to talk about politics at any family gathering. In every sense of the word my ‘’liberal’’ siblings are like the National Socialists were in Germany.They refuse to allow any difference of opinion and believe big government is the answer to everything. My father, a widower in his mid-eighties and not in the best of health can't be spoken to at all about such matters. My fathers greatest political hero is Fransisco Franco, and my father has proudly said all his life he is a fascist. He votes Democrat because the Democrat Party in America is closet to fascism.Only my two older brothers(I'm from a family of 7 kids) are conservatives but they too hold their tongues. I refuse to and whenever I can I deliberately start arguments with them because I hate their politics, their politics are destroying America and I'm beginning to hate them. My youngest brother is an absolute pugnacious leftie and he and I haven't spoken since our mother died seven years ago today. My youngest sister has no interest in politics and stays out of such discussions. If this were 1861 America or 1936 Spain we'd be shooting at each other for sure.
34 posted on 01/13/2013 10:00:06 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

My grandfather had a democrat brother whom he refused to talk to for like 30 odd years. I must admit to having inherited the same feeling in regard to my own brother when he started to show signs of becoming a liberal.

In fact I disagreed with his choice of wife on the related ground that I felt her New York liberal background would eventually bring into my brothers family the same ideology faults that has served compromised the families of New York, (including in my opinion) her own broken family.

I was however perswaded to keep my silence at the wedding in hopes that my pointing out the issue might help enable them to avoid the same ideological pitfalls, that has led to such havoc in her native land.

My bother has fortunately sense moved back into the conservative way of looking at things, and his wife seems not far behind him. I really don’t think either of them have ever cared that much, although sense having their first baby they seemed to become more politically aware & conservative.

As for your “liberal” siblings, having nearly found myself in your place it was my notion at the time to have fun with their nonsense by teasing them relentlessly. (Who says family politics can’t be fun?)
As my brother drifted back to conservatism this didn’t get very far, in this respect I’m actually a bit envious of your situation. I’ve never really had regular access to a national socialist before, at least not one that i didn’t eventually break :( ... (They are fragile things at heart and deep down they sense it too, hence their resistance to debate with knowledgeable Conservative.)

To put it frankly in their minds their attachment to their ideology has been trained to supersede their attachment to reason. Such is the ideological training of a socialist pawn(Marx’s usefully idiots).
Breaking thou their firewall logistically to require an indirect approach, to bypass their defenses and force them to confront their own internal contradictions.

In simple language they can’t realize your talking about politics in talking about the printable that underline that politics. Instead its got to be something monedane like a family game or a sporting event. Then you slowly ease in the logical correlation to political printable underlining a free political system.

A great family example could perhaps be found in the area of choosing family activities, which you would only later relate to choosing collective activity’s on a government level. AFTER they had in their head firmly established their own individual desire not to partispate in everything.

I hope you see where Im going here because once they have decided not to attend every family activity for whatever reason you would only need to quietly suggest that had this family been a government operating under their political system they would have no choice at all. lol Acting as if they don’t in obedience to their ideology(humorously) can help make the evils of the same ideology very much more real and impossible to ignore for them.

But do so quietly with subtly arrangements & choices. They cannot know what you are trying to do until after it is already done, and they can never know how you planned it out, less they attribute it to an arranged phenom.


38 posted on 01/15/2013 1:21:52 PM PST by Monorprise
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