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Citizens have no Constitutional right to police protection. How many know that this is still the law of the land? None from my experience.

If on social media, spread this SCOTUS case from 2005.

Also, if you know an anti, have them Google this on their phone while standing there: "Castle Rock Gonzales NY Times" and watch their face as they pull this article up.

1 posted on 01/09/2013 3:01:26 PM PST by Red in Blue PA
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America is now a country with a Tyrant-by-Fraud
and no Law.


2 posted on 01/09/2013 3:04:35 PM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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If the police don’t have a duty to protect us, then what is the point in having them?


3 posted on 01/09/2013 3:07:28 PM PST by SoCal SoCon (Conservatism =/= Corporatism.)
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It looks like the redirect does not work. This should:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html?_r=0


4 posted on 01/09/2013 3:13:21 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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This is not new to me, there have been at least two previous SCOTUS rulings upholding the fact that police have no duty to protect anyone, (and cannot be punished for failure to do so) even if they voluntarily promise to protect a person.


5 posted on 01/09/2013 3:14:21 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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I believe the first ruling to this effect dates back to the 1850’s.


8 posted on 01/09/2013 3:16:52 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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Horrible decision.


9 posted on 01/09/2013 3:16:52 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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Doesn't this take away the argument from the Left that people don't need guns for self-protection because it should be left to the police?

-PJ

12 posted on 01/09/2013 3:18:29 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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Meh - there's a literal pile of these rulings that span across the decades, partial list below -
 
Riss v. City of New York, 22 N.Y.2d 579, 293 NYS2d 897, 240 N.E.2d 860 (N.Y. Ct. of Ap. 1958)
 
Keane v. City of Chicago, 98 Ill. App.2d 460, 240 N.E.2d 321 (1968)
 
Silver v. City of Minneapolis, 170 N.W.2d 206 (S.Ct. Minn. 1969)
 
Simpson's Food Fair v. Evansville, 272 N.E. 2d 871 (Ind.Ct. of Ap. 1971)
 
Sapp v. City of Tallahassee, 348 So.2d 363 (Fla.Ct. of Ap. 1977)
 
Weutrich v. Delia, 155 N.J. Super 324, 326, 382 A.2d 929, 930 (1978)
 
Chapman v. City of Philadelphia, 434 A.2d 753 (Sup.Ct. Penn. 1981)
 
Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. Ct. of Ap., 1981)
 
Davidson v. City of Westminster, 32 C.3d 197, 185 Cal.Rptr. 252, 649 P.2d 894 (S.Ct. Cal. 1982)
 
Bowers v. DeVito, 686 F.2d 61 (7th Cir. 1982)
 
Morgan v. District of Columbia, 468 A.2d 1306 (D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1983)
 
Morris v. Musser, 478 A.2d 937 (1984)
 
Calogrides v. City of Mobile, 475 So.2d 560 (S.Ct. A;a. 1985)
 
 

13 posted on 01/09/2013 3:20:00 PM PST by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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If the police don’t have a duty to protect us, then what is the point in having them?

Traffic tickets for citizens, but not illegal aliens.

-PJ

15 posted on 01/09/2013 3:20:15 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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This ruling is morally and legally wrong.


21 posted on 01/09/2013 3:25:02 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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I agree with this decision. As citizens, we do not and should not have a “constitutional right” to government services.


24 posted on 01/09/2013 3:32:00 PM PST by Parmenio
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I haven’t read it yet, but this seem like a reaffirmance of DeShaney v. Winnebago County (1989), otherwise known as the “poor Joshua” case. Joshua was a child beaten to the point of brain damage by his father, even though the city’s child protective agency had sufficient notice to prevent it. The Supreme Court held that the city was under no affirmative obligation, under the Due Process Clause, to protect the child against an evil committed by a private actor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeShaney_v._Winnebago_County

The Supreme Court was right then and it’s right now.


25 posted on 01/09/2013 3:33:03 PM PST by BCrago66
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Which is why we need Right to Self Defense laws.

Of course, In my area we are trying to lynch George Zimmerman for capping Trayvon Martin when Martin assaulted him.

Gun Control is just population control. Everyone has a right to self defense


27 posted on 01/09/2013 3:35:45 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
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I am reading the comments here and asking myself if this is really the comments from a conservative forum.

A federal “constitutional” duty for citizens or office holders to perform in a certain manner for any issue to a certain standard of care sounds like a pandora’s box to me.

A state ruling in a suit of mandamus is what the rememdy is for willful non performance of a state duty. The ability of someone to always go to Federal Court and claim broad aspects of equal protection compel perfect protection and having the Feds be the final remedy in all cases is stupid IMHO.


28 posted on 01/09/2013 3:36:08 PM PST by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years. RSC)
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Duh! Read the constitution lately? People have a natural right to self defense!


33 posted on 01/09/2013 3:48:46 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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Interesting that this is a reverification of an old decision that Police do not have a constitutional duty to protect as I grew up seeing the police cars stenciled “to protect, and to serve”.

I recently read an acknowlegement as an andecdote in another column here at FR that many police departments had removed that phrase from their patrol cars, and wondered why.


36 posted on 01/09/2013 3:55:03 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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This is tough for some people to swallow, but police, fire, and ambulance folks have no duty to act. That’s why everyone should have the ability, at thier option, to keep and bear arms, have a fire extinguisher, and have a first-aid kit. If we become so dependent for everything, we’ll wind up with nothing. Some want to confiscate all guns, which is similar to banning fire extinguishers and first aid kits, and depending on the state for all of these things.


39 posted on 01/09/2013 4:03:18 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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Been that way for YEARS ...

They are REVENUE ENHANCEMENT AGENTS period

TT


43 posted on 01/09/2013 5:02:00 PM PST by TexasTransplant (This needs to go viral http://vimeo.com/52009124 please watch it)
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Admission that 911 is really the governments definition of Dial A Prayer.


44 posted on 01/09/2013 5:07:25 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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“Hello, police department, “We Serve and Protect,” uh, wait, forget that motto. If this is an emergency and you need protection or feel your life is in danger, please hang up and call a friend. If you survive, tomorrow you need to go out an buy some guns and a lot of ammo.

For fender benders, press 1. Parking violations, press 2. Dead bodies, press 3. For other problems, press 0, where an operator will tell you the only choices are 1, 2, 3, and 0.

We do not handle loud parties or barking dogs any longer, so do not press 4 or 5 or we will charge you will phone harrassment. Goodbye!”


45 posted on 01/09/2013 5:08:47 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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