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To: sten

By the way, the most disgusting thing that you guys claim is that America was founded on abortion, hookers, and abortion and being colonized by third world peoples, etc.

If you told the American people of 1790 your platform, you would all be lynched.

They would not be agreeing with you.

Sodom and Gomorrah had plenty of leftists and libertarians to argue over taxes, but darn few conservatives.


78 posted on 01/09/2013 4:33:36 PM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said “conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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To: ansel12

You have a valid point there. Hard to envision a candidate running for office in the towns and hamlets of our Founding Fathers coming out and running on issues like pro-dope, pro-fag marriage, pro-hookers, pro-third world invasion, pro-pornography. They’d be appropriately tarred, feathered, and run out of town (if not worse) for being such moral degenerates.


82 posted on 01/09/2013 4:52:35 PM PST by greene66
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To: ansel12
If you told the American people of 1790 your platform, you would all be lynched.

They would not be agreeing with you.

A lot of truth to what you say here. Libertarians make some good arguments, but I do think it's fair to say that the people who helped build this country would never have supported something like normalizing gay marriage. I understand the libertarian points about government staying out of these issues, but I suspect the founders, even as committed to personal freedom as they often were, would not have been willing to give up the culture to this sort of thing.

Then again, the country would probably have also strung up a party that wanted to free blacks or give women the right to vote in 1790 too. There is an argument that the times have always changed and we have to be willing to change with them. To me though the issue is this - if we lose the culture to total degeneracy, is there really anything left fighting for? And if the government starts walking away from these social issues on all fronts (which may be the road we are on), where does it end? Will libertarians be okay with people marrying and having sexual relations with their pets? How about polygamy? How about incest between consenting adults? Where does it end?

85 posted on 01/09/2013 5:08:20 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: ansel12

you realize you’re frothing

you can make whatever claims you want, that doesn’t mean libertarians would agree with you or your miss-classification of the ideology

as for the founders, they would be 100% in agreement with my ideals. far more then your GOP stance, as the GOP is actually ok with abortion... otherwise they would do SOMETHING to reduce the number killed per year


90 posted on 01/09/2013 7:54:05 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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