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To: JustSayNoToNannies
"Believe what you want - but no one person's, or two people's, personal experiences are either randomized or controlled for confounding factors like pre-existing psychiatric conditions."

You do realize I'm actually on your side of the legalization debate?

Anyone who would smoke meth or crack already has a screw loose. I'll give you that much. As to the rest, go hang out at a few dozen parties where someone is smoking meth or crack, and get back with us - that is if one of them doesn't whack you over the head with a tire iron before you complete your research.

If I had no choice, and had to pick between being in a room with:

A)10 people drinking beer
B)10 people smoking pot
c)10 people smoking meth
D)10 people snorting coke
E)10 people smoking crack
I'd go B,A,D,C,E.

I've seen maybe two people get slightly manic on weed, but never violent. I have no problem with responsible beer drinking even around the kids. Coke - some people can handle it, some can't. I'd never knowingly hang out with someone under the influence of cocaine - if somebody's crazy enough to mess around with coke dealers, no telling what else they're into. Meth makes people psychotic and violent on occasion - meth induced psychosis is a well documented phenomenon. I doubt you'll run across too many meth smokers who've never undergone psychosis under the influence. Crack doesn't make them as violent, but the addiction seems to be stronger and crackheads will do some pretty cutthroat stuff to feed an addiction. Start hanging out with crackheads, and you may wake up in a bathtub full of ice missing a kidney.

Certainly not a scientific assessment. I didn't need Nancy telling me to Just Say No to drugs. I've seen up close and personal what hard drugs do to people. If you're trying to put something like crack cocaine on par with a few beers, I don't think you'd find many believers among people who've seen the effects for themselves.
352 posted on 01/09/2013 6:41:24 PM PST by CowboyJay (Lowest Common Denominator 2012 - because liberty and prosperity were overrated)
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To: CowboyJay
Believe what you want - but no one person's, or two people's, personal experiences are either randomized or controlled for confounding factors like pre-existing psychiatric conditions.

You do realize I'm actually on your side of the legalization debate?

I do. My statement stands - and I don't like your shirt, either. :)

Anyone who would smoke meth or crack already has a screw loose. I'll give you that much.

Yup, uncontrolled confounding factor.

As to the rest, go hang out at a few dozen parties where someone is smoking meth or crack

No help there - my observations would also not be randomized or controlled for confounding factors like pre-existing psychiatric conditions.

I didn't need Nancy telling me to Just Say No to drugs. I've seen up close and personal what hard drugs do to people.

I don't use any drugs - inlcuding the hard drug alcohol - and I'd recommend that choice to anyone who asked. The issue here is public policy and the making of same based on data not anecdotes.

If you're trying to put something like crack cocaine on par with a few beers

I'm not.

361 posted on 01/10/2013 7:35:52 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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