Posted on 01/08/2013 10:59:00 AM PST by Kaslin
That ‘have a drink in social situations’ thing is about mind alteration too. What do you think that ‘loosen up/relax’ bit comes from? HOW do you think you ‘loosen up and relax’?
And those were staunch right-wingers in the majority on Roe v. Wade? How about today? Who are the advocates today? We can find “exceptions’ to every generalization.
And people drink mainly for social reasons, not to get messed up. Dope is 100% about mind alteration.
People drank 100% to get messed up when that drug was illegal - and plenty of them still do so today.
There is violence connected with the Oxycontin trade, it’s just that it’s tangled up in all the other illegal trades. Which renders the drug war preposterous to my mind, when we have the exact same problem wth halfway legal as totally outlawed substances.
Drugs also come in via established shipping channels. What do you think it would cost to screen EVERY item imported into this country?
And what should be done about all the domestically produced drugs?
Getting a conviction on most crimes is an impossible task even with eye witnesses. If the local burglar stealing my stuff never gets caught for stealing but gets arrested for possession and goes to jail at least he is not stealing my stuff any more. After 3 convictions he qualifies for lifer status. Feel free to substitute child molester and the act of molesting in this scenario.
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You don’t understand. Pot smokers are highly regarded tax-paying productive members of society. They never break laws and are never on welfare roles. We need more dopers and we need to legalize pot so we can tax it. And this time - the higher taxes WON’T lead to more government.
(At least this is what the pro-dope crowd tells me)
The article doesn’t even consider all the “wrong house” raids and family dogs shot-—practices defended because their practitioners insist those tactics are necessary to fight the “War on Drugs”.
I'll bet they tell you no such thing - prove me wrong and provide an exact quotation.
Making more drugs legal seems stupid. I say go with meth. Legalize that, and see how it goes. Go for the extreme.
I say alcohol is a necessary evil, but anything harder including pot is not.
Pot affects people differently than drinking. It produces mind changes that start liberalism. And it attracts liberal kumbaya types. Period.
Roe v. Wade was a 7-2 decision, with Nixon appointees Burger and Blackmun in the majority. And on the other topic you mentioned, divorce, red states were at least as fast as blue states (often faster) to adopt no-fault divorce. In fact, the last hold-out against no-fault divorce was New York.
Actually, if you bothered to look at the campaign funding, you would see that it was the alcohol lobby, the prison guard unions, police unions and the private prison corporations that piled millions into the effort to defeat it because it was going to interfere with their business model. But don't let what really happened get in the way of that fetish for using big government to make people live the way you say they should.
Sure they are, if there is a law against them.
I understand your point, but it's not that these aren't crimes, it is that they should not be crimes, a point for which I think there are good arguments.
A crime is anything that is against the law, and a criminal is someone who breaks that law. Unjust laws have been and will be passed. In Europe during WWII it was a crime to hide Jews.
Those probably all oppose legalized meth too. Can we start there since all drugs are apparently the same to legalizers?
If we restrict ourselves to the one shot of which he speaks, yes. But you do realize some people imbibe more than that and on purpose to get drunk, don’t you? And that busybodies tried to stop them with a whole War on Booze back when which failed utterly. Remembering that takes much of the force away from his little joke.
We have met the enemy and he is us.
Since WWII, our track record hasn’t been so good.
War in Korea - tied
War in Vietnam - lost
Cold War - won
War in Iraq - we won the first and second half’s, but may lose in over-time
War in Afghanistan - lost
War on Poverty - lost
War on Drugs - lost
MAKE IT: 1-4-1 (with Iraq still undecided)
On the other hand, we’re doing pretty well in the undeclared wars:
War on the Family - winning
War on Men - winning
War on Free Enterprise - seems like we lost this war under Clinton, but we’ve since made a big comeback
MAKE IT: 0-2-0 (with free enterprise still undecided)
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