Posted on 01/08/2013 10:59:00 AM PST by Kaslin
All I’m doing is pointing out who is on the right side and who is on the left (wrong) side of the argument.
And when we add pro-abortionists, pro-gay marriage advocates, pro-gays in the military, pro-porn, pro-open borders, pro this and pro that wacko’s, leftists and other assorted libertarian nutjobs into the pro-dope mix and we see they are all cut from the same cloth...
I just don’t get you you people at all.
I don’t consider myself a liberal in any sense of the word, and I can see that the “drug war” has utterly failed, and left in it’s wake a rape upon the Constitution.
Shove your appeal to authority. It’s a failed debate tactic, and has been since the time of Plato.
Drinking and ‘getting high’ aren’t the same thing. If so, nobody would break the law and would just drink legally.
Post 121. Applies to you.
“I still don’t understand why people take drugs. Can’t they just pour themselves a nice shot of bourbon?”
This one statement expresses the average persons knowledge of what is and isn’t a drug. There are probably more iatrogenic addicts than all of those from illegal drugs.
Admit it though, you do use weed. Right? Why the hell deny it? It’s barely a stigma anymore. Same as gay marriage.
Its status is unique, and meth or crack will not be treated the same way as alcohol in law no matter what form decriminalization takes.
The law will treat other drugs the way lawmakers decide it will. As I understand it, the legalizations in CO and WA treat marijuana very much like alcohol - so the available evidence is against your unsupported claim.
Fact: W pregnant woman is 2 lives...hers and the childs. The unborn child cannot by definition choose or be responsible for anything.
Not arguable.
Fact: People have a choice. They can remain with said drug user and go down or exercise their right to not do so.
Not arguable.
Before this goes any farther and I waste my time explaining it, do we agree so far?
I see. Anything short of a reverse Berlin Wall on the Mexican border isn’t trying hard enough. Well, I guess it’s true, they could be doing more. Quintupling the prison population, chucking the 4th amendment, turning police forces into occupying armies, etc. is a lot. But you could always say more would do it.
Who is "one"?
To the decriminalizer's mind, "one" is a twentysomething college graduate with extensive life experience, a supportive family and ample amounts of demonstrated personal responsibility who decides to try a substance for his own amusement.
In the real world, "one" is a poorly-supervised twelve year old with no judgment, poor impulse control, acting under peer pressure with no guidance from wiser people who have his best interests at heart.
Who "one" is matters.
I dont consider myself a liberal in any sense of the word,...
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You are a social liberal. I’m a social conservative. A Socon if you will.
(Just some basic fundamental terms. But I’m sure you know this.)
Facts my ass. You’re comparing things that are basically the same. Destruction of 1 life or 2 for ‘feeling better’.
Even if you think drug use isn’t destructive, it doesn’t matter. Your opinion on this is clearly fogged by drug use, so..
Which of tbe four food groups is alcohol?
I guess for some folks they're three of the four...
Don’t try to get me. Try to answer my question without tying yourself in philosophical knots.
I wish these guys would try to be as pro gay marriage on here as they are drugs. It’s very similar. The ideology and ‘do what feels good’ mentality is the same.
She does favor decriminalizing it...
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Link please. (I ask - even though I have the link ready to show you that she doesn’t.)
I, for one, never bought into the tax it argument. That is more for statists like you who need to feed the beast and fund other Wars on Whatever.
So you cannot agree on simple realities. Or address relevant issues. Just scream the drug warrior time worn rants.
And btw, as I stated, I don’t do drugs. And I have not drank in YEARS.
You’re talking about feeding a welfare system from druggies that will be FAR more than enforcement losses.
Like the wars on poverty, illiteracy, homelessness, terrorism, etc., etc., etc., the war on drugs will never end as long there are people on this earth.
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