To: x
>>>>>> 90% of pogroms occurred in either current Poland or Ukraine. Not actually true. <<<<<< From Wiki: "Significant pogroms in the Russian Empire included the Odessa pogroms, Warsaw pogrom (1881), Kishinev pogrom (1903), Kiev Pogrom (1905), and Białystok pogrom (1906), and after the 1917 Russian Revolution, the Lwów pogrom (1918), and Kiev Pogroms (1919)." All of the above are either Poland or Ukraine (Moldova). >>>>> Clearly. That was too close to the front lines and too disorganized. Most of those partisans, though, were in Belarus and Ukraine. You might give the Ukrainians and Belorussians some credit for that along with all the blame you cast around. <<<<<< No blame at all. Initially, subject was an anti-semitism.
To: cunning_fish
I was thinking of the 1905 wave of violence, which largely bypassed Poland. Overall in the tsarist era, most of the pogroms occurred in what's now the Ukraine. Some happened in what was or is Poland. Some in Russia (Nizhny Novgorod, Simbirsk, Murom).
Given the Jews weren't allowed to live in most of Russia proper, it's not surprising that most of the pogroms occurred elsewhere where they did live. What you leave out, though, are the edicts of expulsion and the involvement of Tsarist authorities in instigating riots and pogroms. Take that into account and it adds up to a picture different from the one you paint.
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